AEFW does it seem everyone is getting them

jsousa said:
We need a cure .
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Have people heard of dipping before?:uzi:

With all the threads on AEFW people are not dipping which blows my mind.

I dip everything before it goes in my tank. If I see AEFW I toss the coral and let the seller know he has an issue. I also inspect for eggs/bite marks on frags and colonies alike. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
 
attaboy said:
If you have SPS in QT and discover AEFW, what do you do? Suggestions on how to treat to get your QT clean?
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Any quarantine fish or coral needs to be built with instant setup and tear down in mind.

In coral quarantine I've found that having 2 small batches of liverock stored in in separate buckets kept at reasonable temp and SG fits the bill.

You bring in corals and put them in quarantine. You put 1st batch in and discover AEFW. You treat the coral and then wash out the quarantine tank and use 2nd batch of liverock. Running 1st batch fallow in the bucket will allow the AEFW or eggs to die since they didn't have a host coral. The 2nd batch, if you notice the AEFW, then repeat. You can isolate and conquer the flatworms this way and know for certain they will not get into your display. The idea is that you circulate the rock to create a fallow period.

The current method I have been using with great success.
I multiple stage dip everything that comes in and all dead parts of any frag are cut away and I remount all frags on my own fresh plugs. This gets the egg possibility completely out of the equation.

And I inspect with magnifiers and a flashlight after the last dipping stage of Betadyne. It's harsh on corals if you soak them, but a quick hit in a 6ml to 1000 ml of tank water turns flatworms orange and lights'em up so you can see them. So far my multiple stage dip has only killed 1 SPS and it was already on it's way out.

I acclimate to tank water first, then dip in revive (soak), levasole (soak), interceptor (soak) and betadyne (baster blast the entire frag for under a minute tops) and heavy inspection everything that comes in. If it does not survive it so be it.
 
I too have learned to QT the hard way. I'm in the process of redoing my display tank, but now I have a QT to work with. Anything new will be dipped in marine Melafix once a week for at least four weeks.

I think we're seeing them more often now because LFS are getting hit with them, and not knowing it. I've spotted AEFW and Monti Nudis at several LFS that swear they had no idea they had them. I'm now in the habit of inspecting the entire tank for bite marks before buying anything. Valida/Tricolors are usually the parakeet in the coal mine.
 
hmm like the tainting process to turn them orange easier to spot ..is nice since they morph on the sps and turn invisible .. Now if your qt tank is used for fish also and you use the heavy metals for ich won't the rocks hold the copper? I did this and took the rock out and put it in a holding bucket so if needed again for fish I can use the rock again for bio-load .will the tank's seams hold the copper also ? I haven't tested for copper so don't know..has anyone tried this using for fish than corals same tank?
 
Hey Chuck,

When I do dip, I dip every two days for four treatments. Montis can handle this regimine better than other SPS. I've only had 1 acro out of many frags bleach. Deepwater species seem to do this more often than not. With my personal experience, the color of the coral will come back. The strength of my solution may be slightly stronger than the recommended dosage, but its only by a slight amount. I'll wait a couple of weeks and perform the same procedure. I do this three times over the course of a couple months. Its a little overkill, but being proactive is better than being reactive.

Warmest Regards,
James

chuckreef said:
I dealt with this (AEFW and Red bugs) in early 2008 08 - had lots of losses and have not bought any sps since. My question is has a better regime, such as Coral RX and dip every so many days been developed for AEFW. Back when I delalt with it the procedures were not working for everyone and it was like five or six weks of QT. Are there any links to new and better, proven procedures?

CUNA what's your procedure with ehe Coral RX?
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Hey Roger,

Yeah, some folks are just plain inconsiderate. Also, the reason for multiple treatments a couple days apart is to catch the AEFWs shortly after hatching. If my memory serves me correctly, AEFWs take 2-3 days from eggs to hatching.

Warmest Regards,
James

rogerwilco357 said:
CUNA
that was a funny story I know for A fact that people do that and it really upsets me because I just believe all the stories man I believe in people doing the right thing and my wife tells me I told you so ...I bought A tank and yeah the seam blew out and 120 gallons of water all over my house damage not covered on the home owners because it came from the tank and not the plumbing if the water comes from anywhere other than a pipe you are out of luck lol..I have been burned alot and just don't learn ..oh well.
I use Revive but it doesn't kill the eggs nothing does I wonder if we are going about it the wrong way maybe we need some kind of lighting to kill the bugs dead. going to research this..never know..
Roger
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rogerwilco357 said:
hmm like the tainting process to turn them orange easier to spot ..is nice since they morph on the sps and turn invisible .. Now if your qt tank is used for fish also and you use the heavy metals for ich won't the rocks hold the copper? I did this and took the rock out and put it in a holding bucket so if needed again for fish I can use the rock again for bio-load .will the tank's seams hold the copper also ? I haven't tested for copper so don't know..has anyone tried this using for fish than corals same tank?
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For clarity, it was a comparative quarantine example of how to have the ability to setup quarantine at any moment. Didn't mean to leave that note out.

My fish quarantine has biomedia running all the time and no live rock. I can clean everything out and reset and refill. You do not want copper even in the same containers or glass or plastic that you may end up housing inverts ever.

hth
 
no inverts just coral and fish since i have used copper in another tank with some rock i kept that rock in a seperate vat so if I get more fish and need to setup the tank for fish qt i can reuse that rock ..or does the copper go away and I can use it with corals ?
 
i dip everything including frags from 'reputable' online vendors who report a QT process that are pest free. I have found monti nudi and AEFWs in their frags. QT tank is essential. I learned the hard way as well. The whole basting technique for AEFWs seems to work better if you have large colonies. Smaller colonies will eventually RTN.
 
I should have included I dip everything 1x/week for 6 weeks prior to putting the coral in the display. This ensures the lifecycle of the aefw has been destroyed. The coals look pretty rough after the stress but 90% of the time the color returns in a few months once placed in the tank.
 
i treat every coral 4 six hours with interseptor coral rx and others and in 4 years havent had and kind of bugs flat worm or so on u half 2 treat every coral even if u say his tank is clean of bugs i dont care i still treat
 
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