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It may have been overkill, but I cleaned (hot water and vinegar) all the equipment in the tank between treatments, too. It just seemed like they could have still be there and with what I was going through, I figured I ought to find things to add to the routine... I had alot of loses, though.

I had been doing water changes out of the display every second or third day (5 gallon on ~15 gallon volume in QT). Then I did a 100% water change the day of the treatment by way of treating the tank and moving the corals to water change water from the display and thowing out the QT water (and rinsing the equipment and tank out with hot water and vinegar-let cool before adding water...). I moved the heater from the QT tank into the water change water from the display to make it the same temp as the QT tank to reduce temp stresses. I'm not sure where I went wrong, but had a lot of losses. I had large rocks with several corals encrusted in the QT (made it easier to do the whole rock...), so I started thinking the rock may be leaching Levamisole back out over the course of the week or something. Don't know if that is a likelihood, but sounded good at the time (too much humble pie at that point). I chipped the corals off the large rocks after the third treatment and had fewer loses by percentage (though no direct correlation). The skimmer would only pull a miniscule amount of brown slimy stuff and stop skimming all together (it's not the best-Berlin Turbo HOB). That may have helped, too. I'm sure there were some temp swings, too, with a 175 over a 20L. Maybe my mishaps will help someone else...
 
Ok i'm still going with the dips. It will just involve a lot more cleaning and WCs than i planned. Thats ok though, i want to save my corals. So i'll do the weekly dips in a bucket, drain all water out of QT, approx 12-15 gal, and rinse the QT tank, sump and equip with FW each time. I'll have to take water from the display and do larger WCs there to make up for it. Phew, this is gonna be a chore!
 
TMPCC. I dipped my oregon tort last night in about 150mL water and 2 pumps of TMPCC for about 20 min. All redbugs and visible FW were gone after the dip. The dip was really too dark to see any of them in the container though.
 
Well let us know which direction you go and how its working. Any info we can get helps the next person out!


Miles
 
Well, as of 4:30 all acros are taking a bath in Levamisole. I may do TMPCC for the 2nd treatment as I may not have enough time to do a 6 hour bath next Wed. before coming home from the long weekend and catching a flight to DC. I'll keep you posted!

Also, it appears that the AEFW's decided to start eating the Hoeke again that I dipped 2 Fridays ago and is pictured earlier ... &*@# Bugs!

Sara
 
I beat them doing TMPCC dips only . I only lost 2 acros to the dip and I think I may have had it too strong and left them in too long.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7646983#post7646983 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by trueblackpercula
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Any ill affects to the coral today? are the pylops out ? ETC.
Michael

The O tort had full PE after about 15 min. Looks great today!!

clkwrk - can you give me a little info on the procedure you used? Duration? Number of dips? Thanks a ton! I'm glad to hear someone beat them with dips, gives me some hope!
 
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Well I seem to have found the smaller darker ones. There was some question about the eggs. I believe that I have found eggs as well. They are a reddish circle made up of multiple dark dots. About six to nine. I will try to get a photo but they are really really small. I watched one of these under a gem magnifying glass and observed what seemed to be an alarmingly fast hatch rate. I siphoned directly off an infected area and found at least three of the individual circles. I could actually see little moving worms in the dots. The circles were smaller than the tip of a mechanical pencil lead. the worms themselves are almost invisible to the eye. So while I also can't say where they came from the coral I found them on had been in there over a year. But about three weeks ago I added five emerald crabs. It was very soon after that the now infected milli caught my attention. Could there be some relation between the two? The last coral I added was months ago? who knows. at this point it doesn't really matter. I will be following this thread and adding any relevant info that I come across.
 
Ok, seeing how this is getting out of control maybe we should start some more experiments on these buggers. I pulled up human paracite control and came up with a few names of meds. Of course not sure if they would be effectiver or safe on our critters but when the corals end up looking like those pics, its worth a try. I see something thats over the counter for pin worms, an intestinal paracite. Pinx. Dosage Instructions

Pyrantel Pamoate 50 mg./ml

Niclosamide (Nicloside)

And my favorite: Metronidazole (Flagyl) -- Imidazole ring-based antibiotic active against various anaerobic bacteria and protozoa.

This you can get i believe over the counter at the fish store, will check. This sounds like a great option unless its been tried?
 
yes I agree. I am willing to experiment here. With these smaller ones I could easily see them going unnoticed as the cause of a corals demise. really you cant see them without a good magnifying glass. Who knows how many people have these and don't know it. it was almost a fluke that I spotted them. And at this point I am not certain whether a healthy coral has some type of resistance to these. the only two corals of mine that show signs were fragged leaving exposed skeleton seemingly ready to be invaded. This is just an observation.
I guess I will soon find out. as of now all other acros look perfect.
 
Almost seems to easy. definitely worth researching I think.
In regards to my previous post about the eggs. after further inspection what I was looking at I believe was a shriveled polyp from a red table acro that appeared to be being eaten or at least surrounded and attacked by the little worms. definitely not eggs.
 
GUYS,
anyone try to use prazi-pro to threat the whole tank? i am not sure if this a reef safe product?
any updates on this one?

mike
 
Mike,

That has been discussed, tested and dicounted in several threads, including this one, I thought. Do a search on AEFW and Prazi-Pro.

Short answer is no, it doesn't work.
 
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