Alittle help with TTM.

[SNAKEMANVET]

I am getting ready to do TTM and need some suggestions on which fish would be best with TTM together.
2 yellow tangs-3''
1 sailfin tang-3''
1 pair of manderins
1 pair of clowns-11 years old
1 coral beauty-2.5''
1 small lawnmower blenny-1.5''
1 pair of bangaii, and 9 babies about 3/4''.
I will be using 5 gallon buckets for TTM.

 

[SNAKEMANVET]

Would it be ok to do the sailfin and yellow together.I will be doing two fish at a time.

 

[azcrazy]

TTM for?

I was in the impression that you have to transfer all fish at once and if is for treatmeant of ich the fish had to stay in the tank 7 to 12 days(might be wrong in the amount of days)

 

[Deinonych]

TTM for?

I was in the impression that you have to transfer all fish at once and if is for treatmeant of ich the fish had to stay in the tank 7 to 12 days(might be wrong in the amount of days)

You don't have to transfer all the fish a once provided there is a temporary holding tank (i.e. not the DT) for the fish once they complete TTM.

To the OP: 5 gal buckets is going to be a challenge for doing 2 fish at a time. Personally, I would use 20 gal tanks or something like a couple of stock tanks to keep water quality as high as possible.

 

[azcrazy]

You don't have to transfer all the fish a once provided there is a temporary holding tank (i.e. not the DT) for the fish once they complete TTM.

To the OP: 5 gal buckets is going to be a challenge for doing 2 fish at a time. Personally, I would use 20 gal tanks or something like a couple of stock tanks to keep water quality as high as possible.

Now im more confused

 

[SNAKEMANVET]

Thanks, Deinonych.I have a 40 breeder and a 37 gallon set up as qt tanks.I will leave the dt fishless for 120 days,I know longer than needed but I want alittle more time to set up the new 180.The only fish I am really worried about is the manderins,they are eating frozen and flake just hope they don't stop eating while going through TTM and qt.I am treating for ich.

 

[azcrazy]

Oh i see, thats what im doing but i only have 1 tank that will be big enough to house my yellow,yellow eye and salfin tangs for the 72 days that my 180 has to be fishless for the ich as well.

so TTM is out of the question for me , going to hyposalinity route insted

 

[SNAKEMANVET]

If you put some PVC pipes and elbows to hide in the 55 it should work.

 

[Giovanni]

For best success it is advisable to do only one fish per container.

 

[SNAKEMANVET]

Thanks,I can do one at a time.I am not in any hurry.

 

[azcrazy]

My question will be when you transfer them back to your DT they dont get infected again?

 

[Giovanni]

Here is my setup. Use inexpensive air stones and toss them after once use. The frame you see is made from PVC covered with a tarp. This allows you to cover the buckets and keep them warm without heaters in the water.

 

[SNAKEMANVET]

I am sure this is ok,but will it be ok to use tap water, then use prime to remove any chemicals while doing TTM.

 

[Breadman03]

I expect treated tap water should be fine. You aren't going to be topping off the system indefinitely and allowing small quantities of contaminants to build up.

My question will be when you transfer them back to your DT they dont get infected again?

At the top of the Disease Forum is a list of stickies. You should spend a bit of time reading through them just so you have an idea of what to look for.

As far as ich goes, we generally accept that after 72 days without a host (exclusively fish), that they are extinct in the tank.

 

[jd371]

I read that the TTM tanks (buckets) shouldn't be close together to avoid cross contamination. I think it was at least 10ft apart.

 

[azcrazy]

I expect treated tap water should be fine. You aren't going to be topping off the system indefinitely and allowing small quantities of contaminants to build up.



At the top of the Disease Forum is a list of stickies. You should spend a bit of time reading through them just so you have an idea of what to look for.

As far as ich goes, we generally accept that after 72 days without a host (exclusively fish), that they are extinct in the tank.

Well i have been reading those stickies, and i will not leave my fish 3 to 7 days in a 5 gal bucket to be transported to another 5 gal bucket to spend another 3 to 7 days there. or even the 72 days that my DT has to be fish less


The stage where the parasite is attached to a fish is called a trophont. The trophont will spend three to seven days (depending on temperature) feeding on the fish and that is what you see symptomatically when you see "salt sprinkled on the fish". After that, the trophont leaves the fish and becomes what is called a protomont. This protomont travels to the substrate and begins to crawl around for usually two to eight hours, but it could go for as long as eighteen hours after it leaves it's fish host.

 

[SNAKEMANVET]

Thanks breadman,I might only feed them about twice during TTM.To help cut down on any ammonia build up,but will still be using prime.

 

[Giovanni]

I have done TTM on over 40 fish of all sizes. All but one was done in 5 gallon buckets. I feed very small amounts through a small hole in cut in the lid. I feel this keeps the stress down. Never feed frozen if you can help it. Flakes or pellets dirty the water way less. I also transfer every 48 hours. This way if I have a 24 hour buffer incase something happens and I cannot transfer at the 48 hour mark. It also eliminates the need for prime. I also do 7 transfers per fish. I know both practices are over kill but once I started these, I have never had a fish come out with ich. One more thing I suggest, is to use the inexpensive air stones from walmart. You can throw them away after one use. If you want you can keep them then boil and dry them for use on the next fish. This practice helps cut down on the chance of cross contamination.

 

[SNAKEMANVET]

Thanks giovanni,I bought 10 air stones and 100ft of tubing for less than$15.00.Also bought 6 new 5 gallon buckets,that way I can do two fish at a time.I will do like you are doing,the transfer every 48 hrs.

 

[SNAKEMANVET]

Qt tank is setup.I have several elbows and other PVC in there along with about 20 lbs of live rock from my 12 gallon nano that has been fish less for about 9 months.First fish go into TTM tomorrow.