all fish died as in an instant

dirk_brijs

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Good evening gents,

I have the weirdest thing happen to a tank of one of my clients.
Saturday we service this mans tank and feed the fish as he is away on a holiday and his wife is home alone but does not like to feed the fish for some reason.
Amyway we service the tank and test Nitrates and saltlevels as we most of the time do with our service (twice a week in this case) and all norms seem ok (Nitartes seem to have always been hanging around 20) but only a few elegances in his tank and they all seem to be doing very well.
The tanks is L1m x W1m x H1.6m temperature set at 25.5C
He houses 1 small blue face 7 yellow tangs 4 scopa tangs 1 yellow angel 1 key hole angel and 1 coral beauty. quite some Nassarius snails in his shallow sand bed and 3 urchins and some turbo snails.
Sunday evening around 6pm I get a massage from him that his wife called him and all fish are death???
So we rush over and his tank looked like a battle field fish all over the floor of the tank non of them hide or nothing it seemed like they just fell out of the air?
We had a timer installed on top of his tank and saw the amount of fish food of the tank that assembled about 2 feeding s they had missed so tells me they must have died around 9-11am as first feed of the day is set at 8am and is a bit larger in volume.
When asked the wife when they died she said she didnt know as she left the house there at about 11pm (fish were still ok according to her at that time) and only came home just before I got there.
So all fish must have died between 11pm and 9am
all snails and all corals are doing A ok full extended and snails had a feast on all death fish around them.
we tested the water right away on Ammonia, Nitrates, Salt, temp, Ph and all norms were ok only Nitrates now elevated to 60 (should not be that deadly is it???) and might just have been caused to all the death in the tank I presume.
For some reason I think the wife had something to do with it as from past we know she is not into those fish and would rather have them out of the house......
The death fish did not display any kind of parasite or anything in the past and even when death no marking on them at all.
see pictures attached.


What did strike me was though is that Saturday we cleaned out all skimmer cups and when we got there Sunday they looked like Picture 1 shows you. We cleaned them out again and today same thing skimmer had been serious overworking/ see picture 2


Could fish have been poisoned by something not affecting the snails and corals or what else could have caused this. I experienced Velvet and Ich outbreaks previous but does not kill this instant in my idea (velvet sure fast but not this fast and is still a bit visible after death) and in my experience sick fish die in the rocks most of the time as they get lethargic before the pass away?
Anything you can add? I am baffled and would like to solve this mystery or at ;east know what I have on this guys wife if ..... but I can not imagine anyone would??

Dirk
 
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Were there any sea cucumbers or other toxic inverts in the tank? The holothurin sea cucumbers release when attacked (or sucked into a pump) will kill fish quickly.
 
Another possibility would be palytoxin if a zoa colony died off.

On a nefarious note: I'm sure you can buy live sea cucumbers on fish markets in Thailand, and anyone who knows to prepare them, should know how to extract the poisonous organs. From there it's easy - just throw those organs into the tank (or run them through a blender first for more potency) ...
 
nope nothing poisonous in the tank only what was listed no zoanthids either only some Elegances and I forgot to mention some feather dusters
 
Electrical problem? Although, I don't know why that would cause the skimmer to go nuts. Maybe the wife put something in the system?
 
Electrical problem? Although, I don't know why that would cause the skimmer to go nuts. Maybe the wife put something in the system?

for some reason I think that but what could she have put that kills the fish so effective but does not effect any snails or urchins and any corals?
 
Yeah, I had the same "put something in the tank" response although what gets fish but not coral and inverts? Would an electrical charge effect fish more rapidly? And is the skimmer possibly responding simply to decay rather than something still in the tank? Dunno...thinking out loud here....what terrible losses!
 
for some reason I think that but what could she have put that kills the fish so effective but does not effect any snails or urchins and any corals?
If you want to know for sure take some samples of the tank water and the skimmate to have it analyzed. I would also freeze the fish to possibly do a necropsy on them later.

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If you want to know for sure take some samples of the tank water and the skimmate to have it analyzed. I would also freeze the fish to possibly do a necropsy on them later.

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thing is here in Thailand I would know of any instance wanting to check my water and for sure not some aquarium water.
 
got some reply back from the guys at WWM and they mentioned a allelopathically
some sort of out of proportionate chemical attack of the Elegance corals.
I was aware that Elegance are some of the most potent stingers out there but wasent aware they could release their toxins like that?
 
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