All Of The Sudden All Fish Died!!!

[Beans2000]

Don't get any new fish yet. Google uronema marinum treatment. You cannot administer some of these treatments in your tank without impacting your bacteria. if this is what it is, and it's in the DT, you have some choices to make.

What are my options? I really don't want to have to do another cycle!

 

[A sea K]

I also noticed some tiny white dots almost looked like specs of dust size dots on the first one to die's tail fin since Sunday. I never saw it in the other but he never seemed bothered and it didn't show up in pictures using flash.

Sorry idk why this isn't working. It had red marks all over it looking like the scales were almost pulled out

After doing some research I've determined that GimpyFin it most likely was Uronema. The markings on the fish and the way they behaved matchied it perfectly. Now my question is, without any fish in the system now would a new addition get Uronema and if so how would I prevent them from getting it? I think one of the chromis already had it when I bought it because I noticed the red line and eventually they all did.

What are my options? I really don't want to have to do another cycle!

Whoa! Had to leave abruptly last night and missed all this. Your first indication of an underlying issue points to marine ich and then things really go down hill from there. If you do have uronema in the DT then I'm afraid there is no easy way to avoid a full re-start.

 

[Sk8r]

I have made a recommendation on your post in the Fish Disease forum. There is a treatment that may help the tank. It is prescription, and you will have to consult a veterinarian.

 

[Beans2000]

I have made a recommendation on your post in the Fish Disease forum. There is a treatment that may help the tank. It is prescription, and you will have to consult a veterinarian.

How would I go about getting this prescription? I will do whatever it takes to avoid a full restart, my corals are doing amazing and budding like crazy and I already have some nice coralline growing! This tank is literally doing perfect by the books, if it weren't for that damn LFS!!

 

[Beans2000]

Whoa! Had to leave abruptly last night and missed all this. Your first indication of an underlying issue points to marine ich and then things really go down hill from there. If you do have uronema in the DT then I'm afraid there is no easy way to avoid a full re-start.

At this point I really want it to be Ich, I'm sure nobody's ever said that:headwally:. But I'm afraid that it is more than likely Uronema especially since they were Chromis.

 

[ReeferNoob4ever]

What's your salinity?

 

[Beans2000]

What's your salinity?

1.024 very consistent

 

[Sk8r]

The issue seems to be uronema marinum, which is a very rapid killer, and another reason for quarantine. It can take out everything, and a 72 day fallow period isn't adequate to stop it. If you have a reef, it's particularly bad. There is another thread in the Fish Disease forum, just outside this section---in fact, there are several threads on this problem. Chromis and anthias are particularly apt to come in with this, and it is worse than ich.

 

[Beans2000]

Yes, but isn't there any way I can definitely say it is? Somehow get it tested or something? Idk but I would hate to take everything down and kill everything to restart if it's actually just Brooklynella which can be treated by a fallow period. I don't want to do that unless I know for sure I have Uronema.

 

[Sk8r]

There's no test except to get on the internet and look for pictures of the disease's effects. If it looks more like what happened to your fish than brook does, that's your test. By all I've read, your rock and sand will be a loss unless you can treat the tank. You'll be re-starting with bare glass.

 

[Beans2000]

Well there was no fast breathing or mucus, but they are chromis and did have a red line on them. When they died one looked like it had been best to death with a baseball bat and the other looked completely normal without marks.

 

[Elricsfate]

There's no test except to get on the internet and look for pictures of the disease's effects. If it looks more like what happened to your fish than brook does, that's your test. By all I've read, your rock and sand will be a loss unless you can treat the tank. You'll be re-starting with bare glass.

The rock couldn't be bleached and left to dry in the sun for a period of time and then reused?

 

[Sk8r]

I would suspect that would get it. The pest encysts, but there's a limit of durability. It would be useful structural rock at that point. I just have no absolute knowledge of what can destroy the cysts, but I would suspect chlorine bleach is corrosive enough to anything organic. You also, in thorough cleaning, should always remember residual water inside the pump and such: take steps to really clear it.