Angels in an sps tank with clams

[Ironman]

I had a female bellus angel a while back that I had to sell because she was eating my softies and lps. I've since sold all my lps and softies except for a crocea and durasa clam.

This question I'm sure has been asked hundreds of times but I'll ask anyways. Could I try housing another angel since all I now have are my clams and sps? and which angels at that? and would I have to get rid of the clams as well?

Thanks

 

[Don Berry]

Most people say it's 50/50 but I've had no problems with my Flame Angel for over 8 months. It has never done any damage to any corals or clams. I think part of the key to keeping angels is keeping them well fed.

 

[Zoom]

Re: Angels in an sps tank with clams

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7704301#post7704301 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ironman
I had a female bellus angel a while back that I had to sell because she was eating my softies and lps. I've since sold all my lps and softies except for a crocea and durasa clam.

This question I'm sure has been asked hundreds of times but I'll ask anyways. Could I try housing another angel since all I now have are my clams and sps? and which angels at that? and would I have to get rid of the clams as well?

Thanks

You have a 90G tank you can only go with the small nippers .
I will not do it is to much of a change you taking
they are not 100% safe none of the dwarf angels are they will pester the S*** of your SPS when you not looking. I have a large Emperor in my reef tank with no problems with the SPS i hade to take most of my LPS and some clams out but i will not Put a large angel in a 90G my got from 2" to 9" long in little over two years. I was very lucky when my Flame angel jump in my overflow box is not in my tank any longer

 

[Ironman]

I know I can't go with a large angel at the moment because of my 90g. I was looking more towards the flame, juvenile koran, or the majestic.

 

[Zoom]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7705499#post7705499 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ironman
I know I can't go with a large angel at the moment because of my 90g. I was looking more towards the flame, juvenile koran, or the majestic.

they are not 100% safe none of the dwarf angels are they will pester the S*** of your SPS when you not looking

 

[Ironman]

As I said, my first attempt at housing a so called reef safe angel wasn't a good one. I've heard good and bad from housing angel in a reef aquarium. I guess most take their chances and roll the dice and hope for the best. I've also heard of yellow tangs going after softies and lps so go figure.

For those who have had success with angels in a reef aquarium, what do you contribute your success to?

Cheers

 

[jmaneyapanda]

Are you sure it was a bellus- they are SUPPOSED to be planktivores, not nippers? Anyway, I have had some large angels in reefs before (emperor, scribbled), and I fed them to high heaven. They were really fixated on me providing food to them (they would near porpoise out of the water at the sight of my hand above). I think this rather distracted them from sampling the inverts. Of course, you'll need to deal with the high waste load and get a huge skimmer, run carbon, etc. People thought anthias were dirty for a reef tank, try a large angel!

 

[Ironman]

jmaneyapanda,
Yes it was a bellus and I too was told that were reef safe. Unless mine was just a freak of nature and did not exibit true characteristics of its genus. She truly was a beautiful fish.
Here is a pic.

Cheers

 

[RichConley]

There was a survey of Centropyge angel owners, and the results said about 80% are reefsafe.


It seems to me like the owner/tank is more important than the fish. I've had 4 centropyge angels and never had a problem with any of them. I know people who have had 3 or 4 and they've all been nippers.

 

[jmaneyapanda]

well, thats a bellus, alright.

 

[panic]

My Koran Angel ate 6 Croceas before I was able to catch him. I finally achieved nice polyp extension all around after he was out

 

[DitchPlains2]

hmmm

hmmm

50/50 is right in my opinion, but I find keeping these guys alive is harder then worrying if they will nip at corals. I got my Coral Beauty as a freebie, office tank was being shut down I took over and got the fish(yellow tang n cb) both juevs. I have had a flame, twice, and a scribbled, all died from not eating. I feed them everything, angel food, cyclo, mysis, ora glow, hikari pellets, frozen angel food, prime reef, etc... Even went so far as to buy a sponge for them, they barely nibbled. Now and I mean once in a blue moon I'll see the cb come close to a nip, but mostly near the corals not at them. So far so good!

I am just happy seeing him healthy at this point. MY sps are doing fine, all PE.

cheers
David

 

[RichConley]

Ditch, you'd be better of feeding them nori than sponge. Centropyge dont eat much sponge (large angels do.) Centropyge are algae grazers.

 

[Ironman]

I had a CB when I had a fowlr and it was a good eater. I wasn't aware that the flames were difficult to keep alive.

I was under the impression that angels only bothered lps, softies, and clams.

Which of the angels would be less likely to pester sps? Thanks
for the clarification Zoom.

Cheers

 

[Joao Monteiro]

I have a Flame for 3 years now. No problem in eating.
It used to nip at a Derasa clam but leaves the corals alone (at least when I´m there to see)

 

[DitchPlains2]

Rich

Rich

Thanks man if I only knew this before hand, I searched and saw they do eat sponge, the internet is full of useless info obviously, plus someone told me they like sponges, well for the Scribbled Angel atleast. I think the Flame was too scared of my PT to attempt to go after the nori clip. I have two clips now, and two tangs and the CB loves the other food esp, the frozen mysis.


thanks again man.

David

 

[DANNY G2004]

I have a Goldflake Angel in a Reef with Zoos, LPS, SPS and a huge clam and does not touch anything extecpt he took out the Aptisia and a few paly's.

 

[hogpark7430]

swallow tail 3 years no trouble at all.

 

[humboldt reefer]

I had a singapore angel in my tank for 2 days. Not 5 minutes after he discovered the corals he was picking at everything he could find. What a PITA had to rip my tank completely apart to get him out. I want to try a navarchus but I'm going to watch it with some sacrificial frags before it goes in my tank.

 

[concept3]

swallowtails are cool in a reef tank too.