Another Venustus Thread

caribfan

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I think we all know the saying, "third times a charm". So it goes for me and my attempts at keeping Venustus.

This is my third attempt, my first two being miserable failures.

1st Attempt: Two years ago, single fish brought in by my local contact. Advertised prior to ordering as being in great condition and eating. Upon arrival, it had a red sore near it's anus, which ended up rupturing and caused the fish to die within 48 hours or arriving. No feeding response, very disappointed, :(.

2nd Attempt: This past Christmas, single very small fish (cool size) ordered from a popular online retailer. I tried just about every food possible, including building Paul B's little brine shrimp hatcher thing. Long, ugly, story short, fish didn't make it. Kind of was turned off of Venustus from that point on.

Last week, I learned of some venustus that were again, advertised as eating well and in great condition. After much deliberation and rearranging of quarantine tanks, I decided to pull the trigger.

I wanted a pair and with the experiences I had in the past, decided to order three in the very likely case that I would lose one in shipping or immediately thereafter.

I am very happy to report that all three fish are doing exceptionally well!:bounce1:

They pretty much all took to LRS food immediately, the biggest and smallest of the three trying it in the bucket.

Initially I was concerned that I might lose the medium sized one of the three, however in the last two days, he too has seemed to turn around.

These fish eat NLS Pellets, ON Prime Reef Flake, LRS Herb Mix, and PE mysis.

I'd love some input on whether this is a species that can be kept as a trio. It wasn't my initial intention, but being that I have three healthy fish at the moment, I think that's what I may end up with.

Here is a short video of relatively poor quality. If I get a chance later this week, I'll try to get some good pictures.

Long term these fish were destined for my 240 FOWLR, but depending on what transpires, I may try my hand at breeding these little guys. I fall into the category of total novice when it comes to breeding and hearing larvae, so we'll see where that goes.

 
Nice work and good luck! Not to turn this into a thread regarding vendors but where did you get the recent three?

Hope it turns out well.
 
Hey Hpark, I wish you were closer. You were the first person I thought of when I saw I was going to have three.

These fish were purchased from a local guy that does a very small amount of specialty ordering for his clients. Unfortunately, he does not ship.
 
Very nice trio you have. I think my multibars would eat LRS, but I can't get it easily since I'm in the three day zone and I can only mail order through an LFS (it thaws by time I get it).

The hard part of breeding is reading the larvae, and as is the case with most angelfish, longer larval phases mean increased difficulty. If you do some day want to breed them is suggest getting your feet wet, so to speak, with things like clownfish and working your way to the angels.
 
Very nice trio you have. I think my multibars would eat LRS, but I can't get it easily since I'm in the three day zone and I can only mail order through an LFS (it thaws by time I get it).

The hard part of breeding is reading the larvae, and as is the case with most angelfish, longer larval phases mean increased difficulty. If you do some day want to breed them is suggest getting your feet wet, so to speak, with things like clownfish and working your way to the angels.

The same person that got the Venustus texted me this week about Multibars. Said he had a good number that were eating and in good health. Tempting, I just don't have the room at the moment, hate to pass on the opportunity.

From a spawning perspective, should I keep them separate long term or house them in my display. Any idea on how to tell a male from a female? Are these fish that typically exist in trios or pairs in the wild.

Maybe Karen can chime in with some of her wisdom since she's done it before.

I have read a little on marine breeding, but am far off from it at the moment. I'm not even sure these fish are sexually mature. Of course, i'm not really sure how to tell either.

Thanks for the kind words, I'm pretty excited about these guys.
 
Matt,

Excellent news, very happy for you!!

TK

Thanks Ted, I'm pretty thrilled.

On a sad note, I'm down to my last pack of LRS food that I bought back in March. I may try ordering directly from him as I don't think either of the two stores that stock his stuff locally have any.
 
Very nice! I'm toying with trying one myself. Stunning fish.

Thanks. I wish I could give you pointers on what to do if you try them, but my success rate is 3 for 6 at the moment and I didn't do anything differently with the first three that I did with these three.

I think the specimens from DD are probably the best way to go if you don't have a good local contact for these guys.

I need to take some good pictures, the biggest of the three has amazing colors on it's anal fin.
 
Thanks Ted, I'm pretty thrilled.

On a sad note, I'm down to my last pack of LRS food that I bought back in March. I may try ordering directly from him as I don't think either of the two stores that stock his stuff locally have any.

FWIW, I ordered mine directly from Larry, and while the minimum order gets you a year or two supply - that's what a freezer is for :lol:
 
Thanks. I wish I could give you pointers on what to do if you try them, but my success rate is 3 for 6 at the moment and I didn't do anything differently with the first three that I did with these three.

I think the specimens from DD are probably the best way to go if you don't have a good local contact for these guys.

I need to take some good pictures, the biggest of the three has amazing colors on it's anal fin.

I hear ya! While I think there are lots of things we can control when getting and acclimating a fish, the most important thing we cannot control: getting a healthy specimen!

Unfortunately I don't have a particularly good success rate in getting fish off DD. I see the sneak peek, think 'self, must buy this fish', then forget to check back at 6 pm .....

BTW, did they come from BZoo?
 
Another vote for LRS, I have a blueface in QT. When I first got him he hid all the time, now he darts up to meet the white plastic spoon full of LRS food
 
Thanks Ted, I'm pretty thrilled.

On a sad note, I'm down to my last pack of LRS food that I bought back in March. I may try ordering directly from him as I don't think either of the two stores that stock his stuff locally have any.

yeah, call him...he will send...
 
I hear ya! While I think there are lots of things we can control when getting and acclimating a fish, the most important thing we cannot control: getting a healthy specimen!

Unfortunately I don't have a particularly good success rate in getting fish off DD. I see the sneak peek, think 'self, must buy this fish', then forget to check back at 6 pm .....

BTW, did they come from BZoo?

Not from BZoo. Local guy.
 
Great news that your trio is doing so well. I have a pair of medium sized that are doing well after about a month. I have the opportunity to pick up a juvenile thats eating well and thinking about adding it to the mix. They are such pretty fish, and I am a sucker for tiny angels.

Congrats on your success !

Dave B
 
Great news that your trio is doing so well. I have a pair of medium sized that are doing well after about a month. I have the opportunity to pick up a juvenile thats eating well and thinking about adding it to the mix. They are such pretty fish, and I am a sucker for tiny angels.

Congrats on your success !

Dave B

Thanks Dave, I'm pretty excited about them. I'm going to do my best to keep their progress updated on this thread. I want to get them all eating really well before starting any preventative treatments.
 
Matt,

I think your plan for them sounds great. My pair went weeks only hunting to feed themselves and then in hiding most of the time. Then with a period of 48 hours they went from hiding, to 1 coming out for pellet food, then both coming out to eat for flake food, to now there is almost 1 always visible in the tank. So I am confident now that they are happy and feeding well.

My experience with these in the past is the first hurdle is getting them nutrition, anything else you might have to treat is irrelevant if the fish isn't eating.

I look forward to lots more updates and photos.

Dave B
 
Awesome, chaps! So given the feeding challenges, I assume that a PVC-equipped, standard QT is not going to cut it with these fish? What is the best approach?
 
Awesome, chaps! So given the feeding challenges, I assume that a PVC-equipped, standard QT is not going to cut it with these fish? What is the best approach?

I have zero liverock and only PVC in my quarantine tank. It's pretty established though (more than 2 years) and has a fair amount of algae growing in it.
 
I cut short the QT period and chose to ParaGuard bathe mine several times and return it to its own small QT for the last 4 days of QT, with freshly made SW. I had prazi treated and FW dipped first in my 125g established Quarantine tank. I was able to get it eating pellets off the bottom and start to eat them, and spirulina brine out of the water column before moving to the very sterile 10g after the ParaGuard baths. Then acclimated to the display.
Just my 2 cents regarding the QT of this species. Since purchasing it has put on weight, healed up slightly split fins in small areas and has become bold and less shy in higher lighting.
 
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