Anthias dark vertical area

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I picked up two anthias 4 days ago. Have been in quarantine tank. Today notices one had a dark vertical bar in the middle on one side. He was not eating either, he was hiding under pvc pipe, which he Had not been doing. Had been eating until today also. I took him out and put him in a treatment tank but do not know with him. Any suggestions. I've dealt. With such etc but not seen this before.

Thanks
 
Please post a picture so we can help you. Like lalagatbezan said, Anthias are very prone to uronema and need treatment fast to have a chance.
 
Sorry just had a chance to get on here. It was a brownish color almost looked like a bruise. I had moved him to the treatment tank but he didn't make it. Found him the next morning. I have another one who seems ok but worried about him. What is uronema and is there a treatment for it.
 
Uronema marinum is a free living parasite. It doesn’t require a fish host to stay alive. The tanks that the fish were in must be sterilized with bleach to kill it. Rock, equipment, everything.

Treatment isn’t even 100% but includes metronidazole, acriflavine, CP, or copper. Humble(the fish Dr.) is saying that fish with uronema should also be fed fish with metroplex bound to its food with focus to battle uronema internally.

Before we assume it is uronema, it’s safe to say that you may have had a bacterial infection. I will try and find some pics for you and you can let us know. Having a picture is worth a thousand words though. It helps us immensely to help others.
 
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ok thanks, it looked more like the bottom pic, but seemed like a darker brown or black verses the red.it was almost directly mid body and went from his top to bottom, literally came up overnight. It was in a QT tank, when i first noticed it I moved him to a treatment tank I have so I can break it down and bleach it out. what about the sponges, do they need to be tossed? also in the QT I have another anthias and a tricolor wrasse. guessing I should start treating that tank?
 
Just like Justin mentioned above.

Written by Humblefish from another site:

"Uronema marinum:

Symptoms - These are the red sores often seen on chromis damsels. The disease seems mostly confined to damsels and clownfish, but I have seen some exceptions to that.

Treatment options - This is a very difficult disease to treat. Possible treatment options include: Metronidazole (ex. Seachem MetroPlex), acriflavine (ex. Acriflavine-MS), Chloroquine phosphate and copper. The problem is the fish can never be returned to the infected tank from which it came. Uronema is a “free living” parasite which does not require a fish host. So, going fallow will not eradicate it. Most fish seem protected from it via their natural immune system; but for some reason, chromis and some other fish are not always afforded this protection. Once a tank has Uronema, it must be assumed that the disease can survive in there almost indefinitely.

Formalin bath or freshwater dip may provide temporary relief for Uronema.

EDIT: A fish infected with uronema should also be fed food soaked with metronidazole because the disease can spread internally. Seachem Focus can be used to bind the medication to the food."
 
ok got it but if i switch tanks, drain and bleach the ones they are currently in, that would be ok correct, do uv sterilizers work any on it.
 
I be live uv would help maintain but won't erraticate it. If you want it gone sterilization like you mentioned and allowing the tank to sit air dry for at least 24 hrs is the best bet but keep in mind for this to work you must also do this to every piece of equipment that's in the tank
 
I don’t know what uw/cm2 is needed to kill it. There is not really any research on this matter. UV is proven to kill some parasites but then again we need to know how much radiation it needs and how long it needs.

If you switch to a brand new sterilized tank, and sterilize the current tank, all should be well. All fish will need treated for it.
 
It wouldn’t be a bad idea to treat the other tank as well. Cross contamination is very common, and you do not want this going to your display tank.
 
Yes that is what I will do, the other anthias and wrasse appear ok for now, what treatment would be best to start off with and complete. I've read about people basically trying everything and most without any luck. i am thinking copper and metro? Not 100% that is what it was but seems to be. How long to keep QT after treatment?
 
Since you have a wrasse, CP is out of the question. Coppersafe and metro might work. Coppersafe is easier on wrasses than cupramine. You will need an api copper test kit for chelated copper.

You could also give an acriflavine bath before moving them to another qt. Ruby reef rally contains acriflavine. Between those 3, I would hope that eliminates it for you.
 
I personally would do the acriflavine bath, then 10 days of metro ran with copper for 14 days. I haven’t found any definitive info on how to treat exactly and how long.
 
That is definitely uronema. I’m not sure how much all this will help with your anthias but it should help to prevent it with your other fish.

Definitely do the acriflavine bath. I’m hoping the chelated copper will not irritate the open wound too much but you don’t have much of a choice using CP with wrasses and anthias. Best of luck!
 
Well the anthias was DOA this morning. The wrasse seems to be fine. So my question is would you leave him in the copper for a few weeks. Or other option, I bleached my other tank so I coiuld take him out and put it in it and bleach the one he is in now.
 
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