Any AB 10k vs Phoenix 14k comparisons?

HippieSmell

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I have the 250W Phoenix on a PFO magnetic ballast and was looking at the AB 10k. Anyone have experience with these two? Preferences?
 
Have never used the phoenix bulbs, but I love the AB 10k. Nice white, with a tint of blue. More blue than the Ushios and XM's I have used.
 
Hippe, hope you don't mind my question in here too, but is the pheonix 14K less blue than the AB 20K? I know with the Kelvin ratings it should be, but since they differ from manufacturer to manufacturer, I thought I would ask to see if anybody has experience with them.
 
The phonix might be a little less blue. But its more that its brighter. The pheonix is really a 20k with more par imo.
 
the phoenix light bulbs graph (sanjay's website) is very simmilar to the Radium bulb ... but for alot less money. If they sell them in Single ended version I would have bought some already.
 
prodman, thats too bad ... I'll stick with my XM 20k then :D ... btw our club is growing and the meetings are fun, you might want to come down and join us one of these day. We meet every two months at Russian river brewing company and sometime at people's houses.
 
Dont get me wrong I like and use the bulbs. But its the one downside. I used to go to the BAR meetings but have been to busy latley.
 
The Phoenix bulb may loose intensity after 6 months or so but I have not experienced much of a difference. Mine are about 8 months old and my colors are just fine. I run the Phoenix for one year before replacing. I just bump up the photo-period another hour to 8 hrs per day to compensate for the loss of intensity. Either way even with the reduction of intensity it never falls even remotely as low as a new XM 20K.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8895471#post8895471 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gcarroll
The Phoenix bulb may loose intensity after 6 months or so but I have not experienced much of a difference. Mine are about 8 months old and my colors are just fine. I run the Phoenix for one year before replacing. I just bump up the photo-period another hour to 8 hrs per day to compensate for the loss of intensity. Either way even with the reduction of intensity it never falls even remotely as low as a new XM 20K.
good idea
 
i have the ushio 20ks and like them allot i think they are the perfect color my LFS says they look a lil purple i think we should all remember that men see color very differently and we are all a lil colorblind
 
What ballast are you using. I have AB 10K on my AquaMedic magnetic HQI ballast, and I would say there is NO blue. Its white, in fact I would say there's a warmth to the look that verges on a bit of yellow. I think it looks good, like bright sunlight, however I think my corals tend to wash out a bit more than I would like. Part of the issue may be my fixture has 4x250W HQI and 4x39W Ocean Blues, and the T5s are just completely overpowered by the 4 HQI. I'm probably going to give the Phoenix bulbs a shot when the ABs time is up (a couple months probably).

jds

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8891296#post8891296 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by blureef1
Have never used the phoenix bulbs, but I love the AB 10k. Nice white, with a tint of blue. More blue than the Ushios and XM's I have used.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8934751#post8934751 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bureau13
What ballast are you using. I have AB 10K on my AquaMedic magnetic HQI ballast, and I would say there is NO blue. Its white, in fact I would say there's a warmth to the look that verges on a bit of yellow. I think it looks good, like bright sunlight, however I think my corals tend to wash out a bit more than I would like. Part of the issue may be my fixture has 4x250W HQI and 4x39W Ocean Blues, and the T5s are just completely overpowered by the 4 HQI. I'm probably going to give the Phoenix bulbs a shot when the ABs time is up (a couple months probably).

jds

I gotta agree. Theres nothing even approaching blue in my AB10ks.


Prodman, check the copy of sanjay's chart in my gallery. Theres no appreciable par difference between the phoenix, and the 250w radium
 
I went from AB 10ks to Phoenix 14ks on Magnetic Ballasts and the AB will burn white then eventually turn yellow. You really wont notice the yellow if your using actinics.

Im moving on from the Phoenix's though.. gonna try Reeflux 10ks since I do like more white.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8934290#post8934290 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
i have the ushio 20ks and like them allot i think they are the perfect color my LFS says they look a lil purple i think we should all remember that men see color very differently and we are all a lil colorblind
depends on the ballast
 
I use the Phoenix and love the color and intensity, it's a great bulb (although it's oddly cheap :confused: ) There seems to be a lack of information on them though. For one, does anyone know what company actually makes the Phoenix bulbs (more detail than "some company in Japan")? Second, why do they only make one kelvin color bulb, the 14k..seems a little strange. Thirdly, has anyone ever noticed color shifts from blue to yellow on a day-to-day basis? And lastly, I think we all need to petition for Sanjay to test the bulb :)
 
Thanks for the replies. I just installed an Ushio 10k, but I ordered BLV 10k. Some say there is no difference, but some say the BLV's are slightly more blue. Oh well. So far, the bulb is white with a hint of yellow, hopefully it will burn in and look better. I will say though, the Ushio brings out the flaws in my tank more than the Phoenix.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8936263#post8936263 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LBCBJ
I use the Phoenix and love the color and intensity, it's a great bulb (although it's oddly cheap :confused: ) There seems to be a lack of information on them though. For one, does anyone know what company actually makes the Phoenix bulbs (more detail than "some company in Japan")? Second, why do they only make one kelvin color bulb, the 14k..seems a little strange. Thirdly, has anyone ever noticed color shifts from blue to yellow on a day-to-day basis? And lastly, I think we all need to petition for Sanjay to test the bulb :)
Sanjay has tested the Phoenix 14K.
 
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