Any bare bottom tank fans?

So is a "painting" of black sand mixed with epoxy a bad idea? The bottom of my 300g will have glass patches (I'm covering the closed loop holes). Not to mention there's plywood under my glass which is visible.

What else can I do to keep the benefits but make it look better with the blemishes I describe?

Recommend not using glass to cover the holes, possible leak area. Use a bulkhead with a cap.
 
I've found that throwing a fitted piece of star board is a good practice, it protects the glass and if you put it in, in pieces then it allows you to grow large zoo colonies across it and makes for easy frag-age.
 
In the case of some fishes, they try to match their surroundings. The rabbitfish I keep at home, is a different color over sand than he is when over the live rock. When I moved and redid the gravel and had a diatom bloom- he would be dark over the gravel, and after I brushed away the diatoms- he would be platinum over the gravel all within 5 minutes. This is a very easy topic to research online-many authors have documented it, starting in the early 1930s. Speculation is fine-documentation is better. RC needs to raise the bar on information being based on science, fact and personal observation and less about opinion and polls of such. And this is not directed at Vitz-in any way- I think his theory is interesting when it comes to a transparent bottom-but not so much when the coraline covers.
 
Recommend not using glass to cover the holes, possible leak area. Use a bulkhead with a cap.

Bulkheads with caps aren't feasible due to a couple reasons I articulate in other posts. They were poorly planned hole locations with some chipped edges and recessed in plywood.

I need to do patches. Any guidance on how to improve my chances of no leaks? Do you have experience with leaky patches?
 
Paint the wood under the tank white, which will help reflect light back up into the tank. Free light.

I can't.... wood is siliconed to bottom. And tank weighs 600+ lbs so can't just pick it up and pain the wood easily.

Pragmatically, anything wrong with sand-epoxy mix painting the bottom? I see from your sig you have a 300DD.... going to search for pics of your setup. Thanks for your input!
 
You could not paint it at all and let the coralline take over it will only take a month or two if parameters are good as for the bulkheads they will cover in coralline as well you won't even notice if you do you can always put corals/rocks to cover them aswell
 
You could not paint it at all and let the coralline take over it will only take a month or two if parameters are good as for the bulkheads they will cover in coralline as well you won't even notice if you do you can always put corals/rocks to cover them aswell

Coraline will cover a 3 foot by 6 foot tank in a couple months?
 
Bulkheads with caps aren't feasible due to a couple reasons I articulate in other posts. They were poorly planned hole locations with some chipped edges and recessed in plywood.

I need to do patches. Any guidance on how to improve my chances of no leaks? Do you have experience with leaky patches?

Yes over the years I have seen leaking patches- but never noted the particulars. I would use large squares of glass, and make sure the silicone between the sandwich is of even depth and level. Then I would run a continuous bead around the perimeter. I would expect success,but one never knows.
 
Sand and Substrate

Sand and Substrate

I did the thin sand and substrate bed, and then did the thick sand be. My 92 gallon had been running for years and I had a PO4 problem, I was a rookie in some areas and couldn't figure out it was my sand. Its a ticking timebomb, I don't care what snails or how much you stir it, plus I have some pretty have tunze currents in my tank and wouldn't want a sand storm ;p
 
[/ATTACH]I am thinking about making a small corner of the tank substrate and coarse sand for a couple fish I want, sort of block it off with liverock, think it could work? And I can take it out when I want. Because I want a couple of jawfish and or blennies I would appreciate feed back on this Idea if you spare it..Thanks...Also listed nice trade and have a nice hawkfish XL that may be available..hes' picking on my new flasher wrasse..I can't have that S$it ;p
 
Not a BB fan at all. My goal is to try to replicate as closely as possible the natural reef and I have yet to see a BB reef in the wild :lol: Plus I keep sand wrasses so I need sand. Just my opinion, but BB tanks always end up just looking messy to me.

Have you ever seen any reefs in the wild? I have. The corals are often nowhere near the sand. So if a person was wanting to replicate the reef tops BB would be appropriate.
 
replicating the reefs in nature isn't close to being even *remotely* possible in our teeny little glass boxes. it's a specious argument for either side. it really boils down to personal aesthetics and taste, as either method can be equally successful from a 'quality of life' perspective for the system's inhabitants. both methods have their drawbacks, and workarounds for those drawbacks.
 
replicating the reefs in nature isn't close to being even *remotely* possible in our teeny little glass boxes. it's a specious argument for either side. it really boils down to personal aesthetics and taste, as either method can be equally successful from a 'quality of life' perspective for the system's inhabitants. both methods have their drawbacks, and workarounds for those drawbacks.


Totally agree I just hate seeing the argument.
 
I know some of you including my self are pushing some serious water with wave makers and if something goes wrong, its worse than a sand storm in the Middle East. I have 3 Tunze pushing water across 180 gallon tank and I had one slip off the magnet and what it did to my reef/live rock was enough damage for me..;p
 
Older thread but still a goo thread.

So my 5' 180 gallon in wall tank is my first bare bottom. It has now been setup for year and one month.

I have an MP60 on one side and two MP 40's across from it. On up higher and one lower. Problem I have is the bottom is always nasty. I feel this is still a flow issue.

Now with the amount of flow I have this should not be a problem but I feel it is because of the rocks redirecting the flow.

I often place a small pump on a scraper rod and stick it down there to blow the stuff out from around the rocks and under the rocks.

This makes one heck of a mess but at least stirs it up enough to get some of the crud out of the tank or off the bottom. Not sure what else I can do????
 
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