Any potential faults to the tank transfer method?
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Thankyou for the link.
I'm still skeptical that tomites form on or in the fish. If they did I doubt even copper would help. I'll look around though and see if I can find the source an context of the discovery noted in the quote. Thanks again, I'm always interested in exploring and evaluating new information. I just don't buy this yet but won't rule it out.
I'm still skeptical that tomites form on or in the fish. If they did I doubt even copper would help. I'll look around though and see if I can find the source an context of the discovery noted in the quote. Thanks again, I'm always interested in exploring and evaluating new information. I just don't buy this yet but won't rule it out.
MellowReefer
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Well, I hope it worked! Today is day 13 for me and I did my last transfer out and one fish went into my DT.
Overall I would say this method of preventing ich is a lot of work, but worth it instead of risking losing a fish that doesn't tolerate copper. Once you get used to the process it's easier but still time consuming. I ended up getting better at using small tupperware instead of nets, and it seems easier on the fish. I used the small rectangular box disposable tupperware, with a lid, so as soon as I catch them put the lid on so they can't jump out. They are swimming around and ready to eat shortly after each transfer, at least in my experience.
Overall I would say this method of preventing ich is a lot of work, but worth it instead of risking losing a fish that doesn't tolerate copper. Once you get used to the process it's easier but still time consuming. I ended up getting better at using small tupperware instead of nets, and it seems easier on the fish. I used the small rectangular box disposable tupperware, with a lid, so as soon as I catch them put the lid on so they can't jump out. They are swimming around and ready to eat shortly after each transfer, at least in my experience.
MellowReefer
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Yes, it's very possible, and I've seen plenty of posts where people said they added snails or coral and their fish got it and it had been months since they had added any fish. It will attach to any hard surface. Tank transfer only works for fish.
Spar
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i ordered fish from Divers Den that I assume will arrive fairly early in the morning on Saturday... but if they come later in the morning or even mid-day, how does this impact the 3-day cycle for transfers? Should I put them in a tank on Saturday and then move them over early Sunday morning to start the official cycles? What is the strategy here...?
NTP66
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I would just start the clock when you move them from the bag to the first tank. That's what I did for all of my fish - two of which arrived around noon - and it worked out well. I'm pretty sure that others have done this, too, much earlier in this long thread.
MellowReefer
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+1 I believe that was mentioned earlier or in another thread. You would count Saturday as day one in tank one, and so you would move them next on Tuesday morning.
Spar
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OK... nit picky question here - how about air stones and the 24-hour dry rule in between tank transfers? Not really spongy, but similar porous texture. Just leaving those sitting out for 3 days enough?
What if I keep a air pump running through it (just air, no water); should be pretty dry very quickly right?
What if I keep a air pump running through it (just air, no water); should be pretty dry very quickly right?
MellowReefer
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I bought a 4-pack, better safe than sorry.
Spar
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Curious on the 3-day between transfer part of this. The life cycle that this method is 'tricking' is the Tomite stage (while they are in the cyst, multiplying). They usually stay in this stage for 3 to 28 days (observed even up to 72 days). Meaning it is completely possible that a Theront is hatching right at that 3-day mark and hitches a ride over. Very unlikely, but still a chance. And still have to account for the time period the Protomont was crawling around the bottom/etc IF it dropped off the fish right when transferred.
So wondering, ignoring the extra stress on the fish, wouldn't it be better to do 6 transfers 2-days apart?
I still plan to do the 4 transfers @ 3 days apart, but just food for thought. Or am I missing an extra part of the picture here?
So wondering, ignoring the extra stress on the fish, wouldn't it be better to do 6 transfers 2-days apart?
I still plan to do the 4 transfers @ 3 days apart, but just food for thought. Or am I missing an extra part of the picture here?
Deinonych
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When you transfer the fish into a new aquarium, there are no tomonts present in the new aquarium to hatch. The only stage present is the trophonts that are feeding on the fish. Those feed anywhere from 3-7 days (sometimes longer), so those that don't drop off before one transfer will be nixed by the next one.
Now, if a trophont dropped off immediately after transfer (i.e later than is typical) and immediately encysted (unlikely), there's a remote chance it could hatch and reinfect before the next transfer, I suppose. The chances of that happening seems infinitesimally small, though.
Now, if a trophont dropped off immediately after transfer (i.e later than is typical) and immediately encysted (unlikely), there's a remote chance it could hatch and reinfect before the next transfer, I suppose. The chances of that happening seems infinitesimally small, though.
supra400hptt
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That's exactly how I do it. I just use 5 gallon buckets with an air stone and heater for each one. Every other day I move the fish to a new bucket. Dump a little bleach in the bucket they came out of for a few minutes then rinse it out and dry it. Next day fill back up for the next transfer the following day. After 12 days/6 transfers then the fish goes into a quarantine tank with a high power UV (aqua uv). I keep 20 gallons in the quarantine with a pump that runs the water through the UV several times per hour. After 2 weeks of watching and making sure the fish is eating ok, then I do two weeks of prazipro. I feed light on day one in the bucket, then heavy a few hours before a transfer. No ammonia problems to worry about. I keep a piece of pvc in the bucket for the fish to hide and rest in. The only failure I've had is a wrasse that jumped out of the bucket one time. I've got a disease free DT for the first time in 6 years now that I'm doing the transfer method. One of the fish is a purple tang, and I had three yellows that didn't make it when I was just quarantining with cupramine. I quit using any copper based meds. The test kits for copper are just too hard to read to keep the dose exactly right in my opinion. I keep formalin on hand in case I see any brooklynella develop while transferring (mainly for clowns).
