freewilly2
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i was wondering does it work?
anyone hear of mardel copper safe
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White Tiger
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Yes it does work. It is a copper-based medication. DO NOT USE WITH INVERTABRATES!
It does work, though in my experience not as well as a simple copper citrate or copper sulfate solution. Though it does not seem to be as harmful if overdosed...but those are just my observations, purely anecdotal, not based on any data.
The major disadvantage is that you cannot accurately quantify the copper level in your hospital/quarantine tank as the active ingredient is a chelated copper compound, and as such does not dissociate into readily identifiable ionic constituents. So it does not register on commercial copper test kits.
That being said, despite the disadvantages I use it in my home aquariums as I feel it has a wider safety margin than straight copper salt solutions.
The major disadvantage is that you cannot accurately quantify the copper level in your hospital/quarantine tank as the active ingredient is a chelated copper compound, and as such does not dissociate into readily identifiable ionic constituents. So it does not register on commercial copper test kits.
That being said, despite the disadvantages I use it in my home aquariums as I feel it has a wider safety margin than straight copper salt solutions.
freewilly2
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which is better cupermine or this stuff or any other copper medication for ich
A question as to what copper-based medication works best for Cryptocaryon (marine ich) could certainly spark a lively debate, and the simple underlying truth is that they all have advantages and disadvantages. The trade offs usually occur in terms of efficacy of treatment versus safety (toxicity) to fishes.
I'm not aware of any literature comparing different methods objectively, though any of good name brand copper based medications are effective in treating the problem, assuming the condition is accurately diagnosed....as long as you adhere to the manufacturer's instructions and maintain good water quality throughout the duration of treatment.
Another lively debate would be which treatment methods work best for Cryptocaryon, and again, they all have their advantages and disadvantages expressed in terms of efficacy versus safety.
I'm not aware of any literature comparing different methods objectively, though any of good name brand copper based medications are effective in treating the problem, assuming the condition is accurately diagnosed....as long as you adhere to the manufacturer's instructions and maintain good water quality throughout the duration of treatment.
Another lively debate would be which treatment methods work best for Cryptocaryon, and again, they all have their advantages and disadvantages expressed in terms of efficacy versus safety.
LargeAngels
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I personally use Cupramine and like it better versus others I have tried. It is less toxic to the fish and still extremely effective at eradicating ich or velvet. it is also very affective at a wide range of concentrations so you don't have to test as often. Carefull about the Seachem copper test thought. I've had so many problems with the test kits I just gave up and use Red Sea copper test kit.
freewilly2
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how do i dose the cupramine? it says test it to see if it is at the right level but i have a ten gallon tank and i am going away and i would like o know i f icould just put the amount per gallon in every day
LargeAngels
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Dose at the described 1ml/10 gallons the first day and then once more of 1ml/10 gallons. If you don't have any calcerous substrate or carbon then the level should be good. Cupramine is affective at 0.25 - 0.5, which is a wide range, and they say that fish can even take levels of 0.8 so you should be fairly safe.
freewilly2
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so i dont put the 1ml in every day? right now i am having someone do it for me and i dont have a kit so what should i do?
arizona tech
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what size tank u got? and yes get a test kit red sea copper test kit works well with cupermine, i have trouble with seachems copper test kit
freewilly2
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10 gallon qt
arizona tech
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like large angels said 1ml per 10 gallons will give you .25 i found that i have to dose more to get .25 then i wait 24-48 hrs and dose till .4, get a copper test kit
