anyone try a Genicanthus angel in their reefs?

Cozen89

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Would love to see these angels in action. If you have pics, please post them. Debating if my tank is big enough for any of these. Trying to bypass the dwarf coral eating angels if possible. Thanks.

oh btw I'm referring to my 75 long not my 50 gallon tank.
 
They are kind of big. I used to have two Swallowtail's in my 120g and they still dominiated the tank. They definitely get bigger than the dwarf angel's.

One may be fine. Mine kicks everyone's behind if she's in the mood.
 
they won't eat your corals, they're planktavorous (sp?) and only eat out of the water column, usually.

they're way safer than any other angel.

I've seen a Genicanthus Wantanabi in a 30g tank before, it survived for years now, and it's still going. Lookup pookstreet's tank, his name is Kenny and lives down in SoCal somewhere. I'd recommend at least a 75, if not bigger though =/
 
yeah as bad as I want a Masked swallowtail, they just might not fit in my tank. I did just find out that bristletooth tangs eat diatoms and detrius tho. That might seal the deal on one of those. Now just to decide which one. Not trying to get a ich magnet.
 
Don't know about detritus per se. My Tomini's will pick on the rocks and the glass, but will not pick at stuff like hair algae.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10212503#post10212503 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by raddogz
Don't know about detritus per se. My Tomini's will pick on the rocks and the glass, but will not pick at stuff like hair algae.

I forget where I read it on here. It stated them to be detrius eaters off the sand bed as well. At least 3-4 people confirmed it.
 
I had a pair of watanabei's in my standard 75g for about 1 1/2 years, when I removed my DSB I lost the male (still kicking myself), I have the female now for about 3 years. She's the boss of the tank now, I think the male used to keep her in check.


Bellus stay a little smaller, males are rarely seen (although IMO not as pretty as the females anyway).
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10213559#post10213559 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mothra
I had a pair of watanabei's in my standard 75g for about 1 1/2 years, when I removed my DSB I lost the male (still kicking myself), I have the female now for about 3 years. She's the boss of the tank now, I think the male used to keep her in check.


Bellus stay a little smaller, males are rarely seen (although IMO not as pretty as the females anyway).

Jacob's Watanabei is indeed very nice. :D

We have a harem of 4 G. melanospilos and 8(?) G. lamarcki that spawn in the big coral tank. They do not bother corals whatsoever.
 
Thanks Juan :) Did I still have the male when you were over last? That was a hard loss.


We have a harem of 4 G. melanospilos and 8(?) G. lamarcki that spawn in the big coral tank. They do not bother corals whatsoever.

Very cool. What do you think the min. tank size is for a harem of any Genicanthus (preferebly watanabei). Would all the fish have to be introduced at the same time to keep them from getting territorial? I tried adding a small female melanospilos to my tank and the female was NOT having it, I gave her to a friend. By the way, this is not for my 75 (see signature :D)


Hey Cozen, if you have quite a bit of coral in your tank, a lot of dwarf angels won't do too much damage, even if they are a nipper. I also have a Centropyge aurantia (golden) that samples here and there but mainly like to eat frozen food.
 
Well, I was originally trying to see if my tank was big enough for 1 or a pair of any of the Genicanthus angels. I'm' not worried about those eating coral at all. This would be my first choice with a Swallowtail being first or watanabei being 2nd on my list.

If those aren't an option, then I'd move down to another dwarf angel and or a bristletooth tang. Tops on this list would be potters angel and blue eye'd kole tang (two spot brstiletooth tang)

Guess worse comes to worse I could go back to my original plan and get a trio of leopard wrasses....
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10215404#post10215404 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mothra
Thanks Juan :) Did I still have the male when you were over last? That was a hard loss.




Very cool. What do you think the min. tank size is for a harem of any Genicanthus (preferebly watanabei). Would all the fish have to be introduced at the same time to keep them from getting territorial? I tried adding a small female melanospilos to my tank and the female was NOT having it, I gave her to a friend. By the way, this is not for my 75 (see signature :D)


Hey Cozen, if you have quite a bit of coral in your tank, a lot of dwarf angels won't do too much damage, even if they are a nipper. I also have a Centropyge aurantia (golden) that samples here and there but mainly like to eat frozen food.

Jacob,
I only remember seeing the female. She was beautiful enough on her own. :D

It's really tough recommending a minimum tank size for a harem. If you were building a 360 I'd say a trio of watanabeis is definitely doable. Ideally you should add smallest individuals first or at the same time as the others, male/largest female last.

Our male melanospilos chased the hell out of new small lamarckis we added. Much more so than the resident large male lamarcki did! It's almost like they're peaceful but assertive with conspecifics, aggressive with congeners, and completely oblivious to almost all other fish. That's my anecdotal experience anyway.
 
Thanks for the info (sorry about the thread hijack). Yes - I have the 360 in the works, so I'll need to consult with you some more :)


Cozen,
If I do have a pic it's old, and probably bad. I'm terrible at taking pictures of fish unless they're sitting still. I'll see what I can find, they look just like alll the other watanabei's out there :)
 
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