Apex capabilities?

Kaiser24

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does the neptune apex control Jebao WP-60s? does it need to be hardwired to an ethernet or is it wifi capable? do you have to buy additional equipment to sync it to a ATO? any other fun facts are welcome too
 
I beleive u can modify the we to control it with the apex, it is not wife but u can by a wireless gaming adapter or extender and make it work wireless, u need to by a breakout box to use it as an ato but u can use that same breakout box to run many other safe overflow features
 
does the neptune apex control Jebao WP-60s? does it need to be hardwired to an ethernet or is it wifi capable? do you have to buy additional equipment to sync it to a ATO? any other fun facts are welcome too

There's not a whole lot the Apex can't do. You just need to research what your trying to accomplish. Yes it can control a Jebao, but you'll need a different cable to connect it to a full Apex or VDM module. It is not wifi enabled. You need a wifi adapter. Netgear makes one. There's probably a 1,000 ways to set up an ATO, but for all intents and purposes it can control an ATO by either time or float switches. The ladder would require a breakout box.

Other than controling nearly all of your equipment, the biggest benefit from the Apex is information and safeguards. For example, you can monitor temp, conductivity and pH. It's not so much that we NEED to have a continous stream of that data, rather they offer us the ability to program safeguards.

For example, heaters fail all the time, sometimes in the on position which can cook a tank. When the heater is plugged in to the Apex you can program it to cut power to the device at a certain temperature. Furthermore, if the tank temp is too high you can have it cut off non-life support equipment like lights.

Or for more examples, I use a gravity fed ATO, I have a number of safeguards in the event the float valve fails. 1) A float switch in the sump that would close a solenoid valve if the water level is too high, 2) if that failed I have programmed safeguards that if the ph and/or conductivity drops to a certain point it will close the solenoid. This type of programming can and should be applied to a number of different equipment like dosing pumps and reactors. I also have float switches in every body of water to alert me or turn off equipment.

There's other things like a leak detector that can be the difference from a good day, to holy ****, "I'm going to kill myself!" For example, last week my DIY leak detector saved the day. My 2 year old managed to circumvent the child lock and proceeded to tip over my kalk drip. Instantly the alarm went off and my phone received a text message and I was quickly able to rectify the situation. Now it looks like I'll be installing alarms on my cabinet doors.

So, ultimately safeguards are the biggest benefit to insure you don't crash your tank. The second is not having to manually do certain tasks.
 
There's not a whole lot the Apex can't do. You just need to research what your trying to accomplish. Yes it can control a Jebao, but you'll need a different cable to connect it to a full Apex or VDM module. It is not wifi enabled. You need a wifi adapter. Netgear makes one. There's probably a 1,000 ways to set up an ATO, but for all intents and purposes it can control an ATO by either time or float switches. The ladder would require a breakout box.

Other than controling nearly all of your equipment, the biggest benefit from the Apex is information and safeguards. For example, you can monitor temp, conductivity and pH. It's not so much that we NEED to have a continous stream of that data, rather they offer us the ability to program safeguards.

For example, heaters fail all the time, sometimes in the on position which can cook a tank. When the heater is plugged in to the Apex you can program it to cut power to the device at a certain temperature. Furthermore, if the tank temp is too high you can have it cut off non-life support equipment like lights.

Or for more examples, I use a gravity fed ATO, I have a number of safeguards in the event the float valve fails. 1) A float switch in the sump that would close a solenoid valve if the water level is too high, 2) if that failed I have programmed safeguards that if the ph and/or conductivity drops to a certain point it will close the solenoid. This type of programming can and should be applied to a number of different equipment like dosing pumps and reactors. I also have float switches in every body of water to alert me or turn off equipment.

There's other things like a leak detector that can be the difference from a good day, to holy ****, "I'm going to kill myself!" For example, last week my DIY leak detector saved the day. My 2 year old managed to circumvent the child lock and proceeded to tip over my kalk drip. Instantly the alarm went off and my phone received a text message and I was quickly able to rectify the situation. Now it looks like I'll be installing alarms on my cabinet doors.

So, ultimately safeguards are the biggest benefit to insure you don't crash your tank. The second is not having to manually do certain tasks.

You can also use an Apple Airport Express. Just enable it to run in "Client Mode" and it'll join the wireless network of your choosing. Thats what I did and it's been perfect.
 
There's not a whole lot the Apex can't do. You just need to research what your trying to accomplish. Yes it can control a Jebao, but you'll need a different cable to connect it to a full Apex or VDM module.]

what type of cable? thank you for all the great info btw
 
You're welcome. I got mine from BobbyV. But you can find them on ebay or just do a search for Jebao to Apex. Actually Tunze to Apex will yield better results. Same thing.
 
I got my eye on a ecotech mp60. for the other side of the tank would two mp40s be better than another mp60?seems like 2 mp40s would cover more area but im not sure how far theyd push water into the tank and its a 8 footer.
 
I got my eye on a ecotech mp60. for the other side of the tank would two mp40s be better than another mp60?seems like 2 mp40s would cover more area but im not sure how far theyd push water into the tank and its a 8 footer.

They don't push water very far. Great vortex of water but that is 1 complaint for long tanks
 
even a 60?

More then the 40 but it's really not the type of flow the mp line makes in my opinion. The tunze , rw, wp models move water more forward but compared to the mp line all the others leave dead spots at the bottom of the tank under the powerheads. The mp line dosnt. They have a Ni e what I can under toe from pulling so much water into the pumps
 
im guna get a 60 n see how far it pushes water. now to find out how they sync up with an apex. I've been looking all day
 
You can control rw's better with the apex than you can the Vortech's. Just like Tunze's except a wider spread in my opinion. I have 4 rw 8's in the 250 and I don't notice any dead spots. I am sure there are some but I don't think anymore than with any other brand.
 
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