Apex Guru ?

[Fishman7]

anybody local that has learned to tread thru the apex system yet ? i picked up my apex got it all hooked up and running but have a couple issues.:sad1:
probably easier than i think but i cant nail them down ( not a huge programer type)

 

[nivram]

I find it easiest to get it connected to your wifi first and use the wizard.

Once you start using it. It's not too bad.

 

[Fishman7]

it is connected wifi i do have access via my ipad computer ect
1. outlets that shoud be on w/ auto are off the have to be manually set to on to function
2. wxm modual wont recognize my mp10's
tried clearing memory
updating firmware ect
but wont pull it in
ive found some basic code to keep the outlets on and even wrote a delay for the skimmer after a feed cycle
but still have some bugs to work out

 

[Fishman7]

also getting e-mail and text every 20-30 minutes something is causing a alarm i would guess ?

 

[AquamanE]

I find it easiest to get it connected to your wifi first and use the wizard.

Once you start using it. It's not too bad.

Marvin- My problems are not as severe as Fishman, but i also have wifi connectivity and email set up, but cant fiquire out hooking up outside of home.

What wizard are you talking about?

Fishman IMHo setting up the simple stuff first helps bigtime, ie MP10s have their own controller, take out the wxm, forget about firmware until you have the basics down. For my set up it was not bad since i went from ACIII (Neptune), and used same programming for the essential stuff.

 

[nivram]

Unless they've changed the web interface completely different than when I last an my apex, there is a wizard to help setup outlet programming.

Regarding connecting outside of your home. That's a whole nother ball of wax.

It's a little more complicated. You also need a static ip. At least until apex releases their cloud software.

 

[AquamanE]

Unless they've changed the web interface completely different than when I last an my apex, there is a wizard to help setup outlet programming.

Regarding connecting outside of your home. That's a whole nother ball of wax.

It's a little more complicated. You also need a static ip. At least until apex releases their cloud software.

Fishman7- could use the wizard. Im not sure how to access it, but im sure he will ask if he hasent found.

Regarding outside of home set up, i know, ive read the manual but not familiar with all the mumbojumbo. I set up a DYNSYS or whatever its called account.

Maybe since i owe you a pump, you can come by and pick up and yo can set me up,

 

[Zaffor]

I programmed mine with the display

 

[Fishman7]

i back out from playing with the mp10 and wxm like you said figured get the basics down. almost had to write or search code for each outlet to do as i wanted to do.
i have not found a wizzard ??? ive been looking for that grey hair bastard all night!!

so far i set
outlet 1 to pump1 ON fall back on 20 min feed time a
outlet 2 lights ( no control) just on fall back on
3 skimmer on fall back off delay 5 min after main pump

this has my needs covered for now but i know there are better ways to set it up
im temporarily setting it up on her 30g as a test system while my build is going on

 

[Daimyo68]

There's no button to open the "wizard". The Wizard is a set of basic options that you can set through the outlet setup page (which are accessed by clicking the Control Type). You can choose from 6 different types of control: Light, Pump, Heater, Chiller, pH Control, ORP Control.

The 7th option is "Advanced", where you can code the outlet yourself for specific needs and control types.

As for the emails. The email alarm sends information pertaining to probe and outlet status. In the email below, the first statement is "Alarm Statement: If Temp < 76.0 Then ON". This is telling me that my temp has dropped below 76F. When my apex sees my temp hit 76F, it sends an alarm using the "Then ON" statement. This code is setup using the outlet called "EmailAlm_I5", on my Apex. The code looks like this:

Set OFF
If Temp > 82.0 Then ON
If Temp < 76.0 Then ON
If pH > 08.50 Then ON
If pH < 07.75 Then ON

and sends an email like this below:

Alarm Statement: If Temp < 76.0 Then ON

Nov 03 2013 16:28:49
Temp pH ORP
75.9 8.27 0
Whites is RampUp Auto
Blue is RampOn10 Auto
UV is OFF Auto
RoyalBlue is RampOn10 Auto
SndAlm_I6 is OFF Auto
SndWrn_I7 is OFF Auto
EmailAlm_I5 is ON Auto
Vortec1 is OFF Manual
Empty1 is OFF Manual
Heater is OFF Manual
LedPower is ON Auto
Refugium is OFF Manual
Skimmer is OFF Manual
ReturnPump is OFF Manual
Empty3 is OFF Manual
Vortec2 is OFF Manual
Alkalinity is OFF Auto
Calcium is OFF Auto
ATO is OFF Manual
Power Failed: Nov 03 2013 08:18:16
Power Restored: Nov 03 2013 08:18:54
Power OK: EB4_3 (0 Days 08:09 - 0.0 Amps)
Power OK: EB8_5 (0 Days 08:09 - 2.3 Amps)

(You'll also notice that most of my outlets were set to Manual OFF, including my heater. I was doing a 100g water change and cleaning the sump, which I was unsure of the time it would take. Now that I've done it once, I will setup one of the feed timers to automatically shut off desired outlets for the Feed time, as well as add a feed timer statement to my alarm).


Your skimmer code should read something like this below (obviously, I have extra code in there for ReturnPump status, in the case that I shut off just my return pump. "ReturnPump" is the name of my pump outlet. Make sure to change this to reflect the name of your pump outlet).

Fallback OFF
Set ON
If FeedA 000 Then OFF
If Outlet ReturnPump = OFF Then OFF
Defer 005:00 Then ON

 

[Fishman7]

problem is if i use the preset "pump" i shuts off the power
this was my fix for the return pump
Fallback ON
Set ON
If FeedA 020 Then OFF

skimmer
Fallback OFF
Set ON
If FeedA 020 Then OFF
Defer 002:00 Then ON

 

[DRThompson]

You could also use the return pump in your skimmer programming

IE: skimmer
fallback off
set on
if outlet return pump = off then off
defer 2:00 then on

you would need to change "return pump" to the exact description of the outlet name that you use for your return pump. This way, anytime your return pump is off your skimmer will automatically shut off

 

[nivram]

There's no button to open the "wizard". The Wizard is a set of basic options that you can set through the outlet setup page (which are accessed by clicking the Control Type). You can choose from 6 different types of control: Light, Pump, Heater, Chiller, pH Control, ORP Control.

The 7th option is "Advanced", where you can code the outlet yourself for specific needs and control types.

Thanks for posting this. I forgot all about this thread and apologize. This is exactly what I was referring too. Thanks again Daimyo.

Eddie: Every different router model is set different. Some are easier to setup for this than others. Text your router model and I'll see if I can figure it out.

 

[Fishman7]

this is not as router question or issue connection and contact are all working as needed the router has noting to do w control over outlets in this case that i can see it happens even via the factory diplay connected directly to the eb8

 

[Daimyo68]

this is not as router question or issue connection and contact are all working as needed the router has noting to do w control over outlets in this case that i can see it happens even via the factory diplay connected directly to the eb8

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