Apex VS. GHL Profilux
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James77
Team RC
The Profilux is higher quality and more reliable, but thats not saying the Apex is crap....it is also high quality. The Profilux has more integrated hardware like float switches and dosers, and is more powerful.
Why do you want to switch? Is the Apex not doing enough or lacking something you need?
Why do you want to switch? Is the Apex not doing enough or lacking something you need?
I'm not sure I want to switch, I'm trying to gather some info, if the GHL is truly better I'd like to know.
The apex will do float switches, I don't think it will do a doser, but I have a separate doser anyway.
I keep getting answers like the GHL will do "so and so" but then I know the Apex will do that as well. Or I get "The GHL gives more control", again the Apex will control down to the hour minute and second, so I can't see where the GHL would be more.
People keep telling me the GHL is better, and if it's true I might get on, but I'm trying to find out what's better about it.
The apex will do float switches, I don't think it will do a doser, but I have a separate doser anyway.
I keep getting answers like the GHL will do "so and so" but then I know the Apex will do that as well. Or I get "The GHL gives more control", again the Apex will control down to the hour minute and second, so I can't see where the GHL would be more.
People keep telling me the GHL is better, and if it's true I might get on, but I'm trying to find out what's better about it.
James77
Team RC
It is not a night and day difference between the 2. Quality wise, the Profilux is higher quality and more reliable in the sense of being bug free. But the Apex is not prone to endless bugs, and if one pops up,they are corrected quickly once Curt knows about them. You are paying a much higher price for the extra quality and reliability of the Profilux. Is it worth it to you? IDK, it is to some. Others, myself included, find the Apex far more functional than I will ever need, and the quality of it more than sufficient.
Thanks for the input Jim.
It might be a tough question to answer. I checked out the Profilux forum, and they seem to have plenty of bugs also, I'm not sure I see any advantage there. That's not a put down, you have to expect some bugs when a manufacturer is designing a piece of equipment to work with a bunch of other manufacturers products. But again I don't see any difference there with the Apex.
It looks like (from screen shots) that the GHL may be easier to program. But now I was told by a GHL user that the GHL is more limited in how many logic statements (I'm not sure what he means by that) you can use.
I might be with you, and stick to the Apex. I love the gadgets, and if there is a reason to switch I would, but I can't find a reason.
Even the "made with better components" I can't really find any concrete evidence of it.
It might be a tough question to answer. I checked out the Profilux forum, and they seem to have plenty of bugs also, I'm not sure I see any advantage there. That's not a put down, you have to expect some bugs when a manufacturer is designing a piece of equipment to work with a bunch of other manufacturers products. But again I don't see any difference there with the Apex.
It looks like (from screen shots) that the GHL may be easier to program. But now I was told by a GHL user that the GHL is more limited in how many logic statements (I'm not sure what he means by that) you can use.
I might be with you, and stick to the Apex. I love the gadgets, and if there is a reason to switch I would, but I can't find a reason.
Even the "made with better components" I can't really find any concrete evidence of it.
James77
Team RC
I did use the Profilux briefy, I had bought it used. I did not use it long enough to give an accurate review of it overall. The programming part of it through the computer is eaiser, and there are things like randomizing Tunze flow that are nice. They use all relays in their power strip, which are mor ereliable, especially swithc small wattage items on and off.
If I had the extra cash, I might go for the Profilux as well. But my control needs are fairly limited than the potentials they have. The touchscreen is nice, but another not-need-to-have. There is also the Vertex Cerebra due out someday soon, seems interesting. The starter for that shoudl eb priced somewhere in btween the Apex and Profilux.
If I had the extra cash, I might go for the Profilux as well. But my control needs are fairly limited than the potentials they have. The touchscreen is nice, but another not-need-to-have. There is also the Vertex Cerebra due out someday soon, seems interesting. The starter for that shoudl eb priced somewhere in btween the Apex and Profilux.
chadfarmer
Premium Member
i have 2 profiluxs i have 1 unit i use and a backup unit (never used the back but i do install software just in case)
my unit is from 08 and upgrades to profilux 3ex i like upgrading the software and being able to back it up on my computer
never owned a apex your best bet is to ask this question at aquariumcomputers.com in the forums
my unit is from 08 and upgrades to profilux 3ex i like upgrading the software and being able to back it up on my computer
never owned a apex your best bet is to ask this question at aquariumcomputers.com in the forums
they are all kinda **** when really looking into what they can do and how they do it.
Pick one that works for your needs, and dont cost a fortune! At the end of the day your not making sex to it anyway, it just does some of your work and it shouldnt really be considered reliable anyway.
I just wish i was skilled in making a computer for aquariums because they all leave a door open for someone to come into the market and take over completely and make lots of money and supplying us with a kickass product that does more than giving us a few numbers on a display created in the 1980's.
Thank you!
Pick one that works for your needs, and dont cost a fortune! At the end of the day your not making sex to it anyway, it just does some of your work and it shouldnt really be considered reliable anyway.
I just wish i was skilled in making a computer for aquariums because they all leave a door open for someone to come into the market and take over completely and make lots of money and supplying us with a kickass product that does more than giving us a few numbers on a display created in the 1980's.
Thank you!
BigAl2007
Active member
I just wish i was skilled in making a computer for aquariums because they all leave a door open for someone to come into the market and take over completely and make lots of money and supplying us with a kickass product that does more than giving us a few numbers on a display created in the 1980's.
Thank you!
If only it were that easy . . .
ashish
New member
I am in the market for a controller and Apex was my only choice. However, someone told me to look into New Profilux mega set and do the research as they are better. A lot of ppl have bias opinions on this and if you've had issues with Apex and made the big expensive switch - please share.
ReefCowboy
New member
I can only speak for the Apex, although the GHL seems like a great one as well.
I just got the new Apex recently and have been really enjoying it. It does exactly everything that I need from it, monitors and keeps me abreast of anything wrong in the tank.
The thing these days is people are carried on with controllers to ridiculous aspects. IMO the point of that equipment is to monitor and inform us of events such as temperature swings, power outages, and in my case, shut the return if water gets all over the floors so my wife doesnt kill me.
GHL is a robust controller, with easy set up and excellent quality. The Apex has awesome support, is ahead on whats trending in the hobby and IMO has cool looking equipment.
Neptune's reliability took a hit when the new unit came out due to component issues, but those have been repaired and the company was always straight forward during the repair times. I was one that bought it and returned a few months back.
One can go on and on about controllers, the tech geeks, but technically with either one you should be happy.
I just got the new Apex recently and have been really enjoying it. It does exactly everything that I need from it, monitors and keeps me abreast of anything wrong in the tank.
The thing these days is people are carried on with controllers to ridiculous aspects. IMO the point of that equipment is to monitor and inform us of events such as temperature swings, power outages, and in my case, shut the return if water gets all over the floors so my wife doesnt kill me.
GHL is a robust controller, with easy set up and excellent quality. The Apex has awesome support, is ahead on whats trending in the hobby and IMO has cool looking equipment.
Neptune's reliability took a hit when the new unit came out due to component issues, but those have been repaired and the company was always straight forward during the repair times. I was one that bought it and returned a few months back.
One can go on and on about controllers, the tech geeks, but technically with either one you should be happy.
I think it's hard to go wrong with either. I have apex and am very happy with it; a buddy of mine has GHL and is very happy with it. I also have the GHL doser 2. About the only thing I'd say is that support for the apex is much better, both in terms of the community and trying to interact with the company.
d2mini
Premium Member
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biecacka
Active member
I own an Apex and came home on Saturday to it not working. No display, no lights on, no return pump on, or anything for that matter. I had tried to update my firmware back in October and it wouldn't work with my MacBook. Which is odd because in the past I have used it to do such. Now neptune is requesting that I get a pc and try to update it that way. Then we will know if it was just needing updated or if it is corrupt of some sort. On the behalf of neptune though, they have responded very quickly and been very helpful. I am please with that aspect of it for sure, now I guess it just depends on what is wrong with the apex. I just wish they were more mac compatible.
Corey
Corey
ashish
New member
I pretty much bump'ed it as I had the same questions. The thread was pretty much dead and gone!:uzi:
ashish
New member
Initially, I want to monitor temp, salinity, Ph, lights, and controller. With the hobby expanding its just a matter of time before we have affordable KH/CA sensor that can be hooked up to controller. Apex would be great for monitoring but after few years I believe GHL will likely have a KH monitor system that I can buy the probe and upgrade - at least this is what I anticipate.. If I go with Apex (who are probably the best monitoring device), I may regret it later as I can't afford to buy both even if its after few years.
I am still leaning towards Neptune because of the pricing and large user support. but GHL I'll consider as I will be using there doser
