Apolemichthys Kingi's!!!

[photoblepharon]

You are accusing of smuggled fish without having a proof, get a life.

So lame, got nothing to say to you anymore.

Go and read my posts.

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I can't really write what I think about people like you.

You seem to love defending the smugglers and really hate it when people point out the smuggling. I watched you defend Steve Robinson and trash federal agents. All so you can get some rare fish.

Shaking my head man. Enjoy your hate.

 

[Vili_Shark]

You're asking me to provide proof that a particular fish mentioned in this thread by an anonymous internet poster, whose location is unknown, was exported illegally? Sorry, I can't do that. I likewise can't prove that an individual Philippine blue tang at the local Petco was caught with cyanide, but that doesn't mean it never happens.

If you read carefully I never said the OPs fish was illegally collected. I said many of the kingis in the trade are illegally exported out of ZA. Is this really up for debate? You and I both know it's true, so why argue with it?

You are the one who posted in the thread , right?
Somebody force you to?

You could open a History thread, and write there that Steve smuggled Clippertons , Craig Lightner smuggled Clarions and T Rex (it was about the same time) , what it got to to with THIS Kingii?

Can you confirm this Kingii was smuggled?
If yes, give us a proof , I'd be very interested to know that, seriously I will.

If not, I really find it annoying to read your posts, no offence , I just like things to be accurate, we all know about Steve and Craig, but this got nothing to do with these Kingii unless you have a proof.

There are fish smuggled, true!
We both know that.

There is a bank getting robbed somewhere in the world today, so should I got to the bank now and arrest the person next to me, accuse him he looks "shady" and there's a bank getting robbed today.

 

[Vili_Shark]

You seem to love defending the smugglers and really hate it when people point out the smuggling. I watched you defend Steve Robinson and trash federal agents. All so you can get some rare fish.

Shaking my head man. Enjoy your hate.

Not true.

I'd be sad to know that these fish were smuggled from SA.
I like to see SA as an advanced country, smuggling a fish shipment is not smuggling a diamond, it is boxes of fish and got to involve the authorities and the airlines, their authorities have to look to the other way , which at this point I find hard to believe due to :
1.Again fish shipment require volume
2.Given the FACT that quite a lot of fish were offered for sale in the past 2 years , but I DO NOT KNOW for a fact.

Logically , I'd think these fish came from a new location, but again, I DO NOT KNOW.

There's no hate.
I just don't like people blame, then say they don't really blame, but just based on assumptions, if you have a proof show it, if not, take a rest as simple as that.

 

[photoblepharon]

Theres no proof this particular fish is illegal and nobody ever said it was. The discussion was about kingi in general and if you think many aren't entering the trade via ZA then you are either naive or a fool.

Right here in this thread many people criticize the USFWS and ZA authorities as hypocrites and just chasing paperwork yet give the benefit of the doubt to fish smugglers. All I have left to say is that you reap what you sow.

I believe I've made my point well enough and wish you a fine day sir.

 

[Vili_Shark]

Theres no proof this particular fish is illegal and nobody ever said it was. The discussion was about kingi in general and if you think many aren't entering the trade via ZA then you are either naive or a fool.

Right here in this thread many people criticize the USFWS and ZA authorities as hypocrites and just chasing paperwork yet give the benefit of the doubt to fish smugglers. All I have left to say is that you reap what you sow.

I believe I've made my point well enough and wish you a fine day sir.

Do you have a proof on Kingii in general?

I've been offered or saw for sale at least 2 dozens of Kingii in the last couple of years, USA / HKG / JPN and EU, and let me tell you , I'm not interested in rare fish anymore, so somebody who's more into it, I just assume will know of more fish.

Are you saying they are smuggled?

Can't they come from Madagascar? or Mosambique?

And one more point which I dont understand in your post, IF they are smuggled , why NOT criticize the SA authorities???? how on earth can you take out a fish shipment on an international airport without co operation from the authorities?

 

[Misled]

You guys need to lighten up. Thread closed.