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I dont have anything after the gate valve. There is only about 2" before it hits the side of the glass in the sump. I will keep on dialing down the air valve till it gets to a good spot. Its probably over halfway closed right now and its not really doing anything. I will open the air valve a little and see how it goes. Thanks for all the help so far. It seemed like their were a couple variables that could be causing it, but it sounds like a Mag 9 and fully opened gate valve are good, so I will just mess around with the air valve and see if I can get it dialed in. Thanks.
 
I leave the gate valve all the way open and then adjust the air valve to get the level of skimmate that I want. My air valve is about 1/4 of the way open so it is mostly closed.
 
Same here. Leave the gate valve open. There seems be a spot on the air valve that it 'sits' perfectly...

I wonder if there is another 'aftermarket' air valve you could put on to dial it in better.
 
I wonder if there is another 'aftermarket' air valve you could put on to dial it in better.

I've been experimenting with a needle valve documented here somewhere. I have a project for it that has been on the back burner due to more pressing priorities. I will be modifying it by chopping off the 1/2" barbs and gluing 1/2" JG fittings. It may be a month or so before I can get to it, but I'll be sure to post about it when it's been run through the tests.
 
Hey all.



Looks like I'm joing the ranks! I've had the skimmer for about 1 year it never dialed it in properly. Tried in sump install, external, etc. Finally found an AquaC EV120 setup that works. My problems had to do with restricting the flow in one case and a clogged spray injector and salted up air injector in the other case.

I truly believe that the folks over at AquaC are hurting themselves but not pointing showing videos on how to set this up in configs that work. But heres an external set-up I found works for me.

I'm running with a Mag 5, no gate or ball on the input.
Make sure the black elbow injector is clean along with the clover crimped injector on the bottom. Clean weekly.
Clean the salt out of the air injector every couple of days.

My out of sump install consists of:
From the 1" gate output of the skimmer screw in a 1" threaded to 1 1/4" slip coupling, always use teflon tape. Cement in a 6-8" long piece of 1" PVC nack into a 1 1/4" slip to 1" threaded coupling. That would screw into a 1" bulkhead into the sump ABOVE the water level.

When starting up leave gate valve wide open. Close the air valve - no bubbles until you get the water level set. Start pump up and let run for 1 hour or so to settle in. Observe water level. Mine rests about at the top of the outer box (ideally manual says to leave it at the top of the inner box - shine a flashlight thru there to see for sure). Once the level is between the 2 positions noted above open the air valve slowly. Bubbles should rise into the riser, not into the cup.

Let it sit like that for 24-48 hours to begin break in. Be sure not to ignore the cup - when it decides to kick in it will do so with no remorse for your carpeting!

I have another setup installing a siphon break to see if that increases preformance or allows me to drop water level a bit. Once you understand how the adjustments work on these skimmers they really are a great skimmer, it just takes time to try and understand its operation. It is the true reefkeeping sump - dont rush it!

Oh and if you notice variation of water level inside the box and gurgling under normal operation something is wrong with the plumbing. Probably choked on the output(LFS had me set it up using 1" hosebard fitting with 3/4" ID Flex PVC, wont be buying from them anytime soon). Do not attempt to resolve by closing the gate valve or else you will be swimming when the power goes out and come back on. Let me know if you want a pic, reply or PM.
 
Where can I find info on the different mods for the Urchin? I have an MJ1200 on it and can't get it to skim.
 
I am running an EV120 with a Mag7. I have been adjusting it for a year and a half, but to no avail. I can not get the skimmer to produce skimmate.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13084434#post13084434 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by runningnreefing
I am running an EV120 with a Mag7. I have been adjusting it for a year and a half, but to no avail. I can not get the skimmer to produce skimmate.

Wow, that's patience!

Does your skimmer have a JG fitting for a calcium reactor? If it does and you don't have anything hooked up to it, it needs to plugged in order for the skimmer to function. Assuming you've followed the setup instructions, made the injector and air valve are clean there must be something wrong with the skimmer. Contact AquaC - they're really helpful and should be able to get you going.
 
No, it does not have a JG fitting. I have contacted AquaC. After following their instructions, the skimmer would work for a couple of days then quit. Any other suggestions?
 
It does not produce anything at all? Any chance you smoke in the house or use air fresheners near the tank? I would think after a year and a half, you would be able to produce something. Try taking some pictures of what it looks like running and maybe some setup pics

Mine was finicky when I first got it, but now, the foam will collapse when feeding, cooking with lots of grease, putting hands in tank, etc, but will be back to normal within an hour or two.
 
Yeah, that was my guess, too. Something in the air causing the foam to collapse. If you have some spare airline tubing, try running a tube from the air intake out the window and see if that helps.
 
Hey guys -
Been running an Aqua-C 240 for a good year on a 120 tech setup.
SPS, LSP, Fish & clean up crew.

In sump setup..
Started with a MAG-12 w/no mods to the 240.
MAG-12 w/1"tube directly connected to the injector - no gate.
Ran MAG wide open and adjusted water level via exit gate to the top of the box - outside. Just so you can see the water level equal or just below the box. Ran with the air gate wide-open.
Skimmed fine for a good 8 months, but decided to mod..

Added a MAG-18 w/1" injector.
No gate between MAG & 240.
Adjusted water level via exit gate to the same level - just equal or below the outside of the box.
Adjusted foam tower via air gate.
It's about 1/2 closed.
I have fine bubbles that get larger and break just below the collection cup - 1". This way the neck stays pretty clean. Clean the neck one a month. Collection cup is really dark green - coffee color. I fill the cup to the overflow connection on the collection cup in 2 days. This setup allows me to run for a week without cleaning as the collection cup neck gets pretty dirty and slows down NOG production, but it still produces. Just not as wet.

Basics on setup - bigger pumps
1" injector
No gate between pump and skimmer
Get your water level equal or just below top of the outside box.
Control foam head with air gate.
Let unit run for 4-8 hours before tweaking.

Once I dialed this in, forget about it.

I am getting more out of this than I see on other threads for 3k skimmers. Thinking about upgrading, but it is hard to think I would get 2.7K worth of NOG removal via a new skimmer.
 
2 things I've noticed over a few years is that the SG needs to be in the 1.025 range and you need to keep the water level constant in an in-sump application.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13086411#post13086411 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BrianH
2 things I've noticed over a few years is that the SG needs to be in the 1.025 range and you need to keep the water level constant in an in-sump application.

+1 on this...salinity made an enormous difference for mine as well. Mine was too high, but bringing it back down to normal ranges helped a lot.

Good call on the water level. I think many people forget that and it would probably confuse the heck out of you trying to dial in your skimmer with a varying water level where the pump is located.

And as a side note, related to both aspects of this response, don't forget that varying water levels will most likely also mean varying salinity levels. Inconsistency in your water will kill this skimmer's foaming abilities.
 
My salinity stays pretty constant at 1.025. There are no smokers in the house, and we do not use any air fresheners. Over the year and a half the skimmer has probably produced less than a cup of skimmate. Everytime I make an adjustment, it would produce a little skimmate then quit. After I clean the cup and the riser tube, gunk will start to accumulate on the riser tube, but it does not make it into the collection cup.

The skimmer is in the sump. I have the skimmer on an acrylic box about 3 inches high. The Mag7 is in another chamber feeding the skimmer. The water level in the sump fluctuates about an inch due to evaporation. I am pretty good about topping off so that the water level in the sump stays pretty constant.

I would appreciate any help to resolve this situation because I am considering selling it and getting a different skimmer.
 
Hang in there, these skimmer rock once you get them nailed...

Less than 1 cup in a year and a half? That seems crazy, especially when mine is pulling that every couple days. Let's see if we can't troubleshoot.

Ok, I'm just going to go over everything because you never know which part you might have missed or where a light bulb will appear above your head.

I'm going to also assume that you have completely taken the skimmer apart, and cleaned the air valve, injector (make sure there is nothing stuck in the clover leaf shaped part), and actually cleaned the skimmer body itself. If you haven't recently, soak the entire thing in vinegar overnight. Take a look inside and where the injector sprays water in to make sure there are no obstructions. Also, to make sure you've covered all your bases, it might not be a bad idea to take out the Mag 7 and inspect and soak in vinegar overnight to make sure it's running at full throttle. Once everything is completely rinsed, put it all back together (good idea to use thread tape on the injector threads). Something to also point out here is that the exit flow from the skimmer cannot be restricted and must leave the skimmer above the water level in the sump. If there are any 90 bends or if the outlet is underwater, it will create back pressure and change how the skimmer will work. You've probably read these next steps, but read again just to make sure you didn't miss anything:
1. Open gate valve on output, close air valve completely, and turn skimmer pump on. (there should be no bubbles in the water, if there are, make sure you don't have any uncovered holes)
2. Use gate valve on output to set water level even with where the clear plastic riser meets the black mixing box. You should be able to see the top of the water kind of rippling at that level (still no bubbles, or very few coming from just the turbulence).
***PS-when making adjustments to the gate valve or air valve, allow an hour between adjustments for things to settle***
3. Open air valve to halfway. The water should immediately start filling with bubbles. It could take some time for the bubbles to actually form foam.
4. Let the skimmer run for a day or so to allow the foam to stabilize. Watch out for floods at this point until you get consistent foaming.
5. Close the air valve for dryer skimmate, and open for wetter. Very small adjustments here make a big difference, so just nudge the valve when adjusting. If you have a flood going on, and the water level is still set where it should be, close the airvalve some.

Couple of notes:

You may have to find a way to stabilize the water level where the pump is located. I know an inch doesn't seem like much variation, but an inch of head pressure difference will change the water level in the skimmer. Baffles are the easiest way to accomplish this. But, you can also put the pump in a bucket or container that receives water from the drain and stays at one level. I don't know what size sump you are working with, so I can't help too much there.

If you have the water level set correctly and the air valve all the way open and still can't get skimmate into the cup, there may be something going on with your water. I kid you not, I can pretty much tell when my alk or calc is out of line because my skimmer will not produce the same quantity of foam. That may just be the case with my individual setup, but it definitely makes a difference and is something to consider for you.

What are you using to measure your salinity? What are you using to calibrate this instrument?

What salt are you using? Mine runs better with Kent than it did with IO. However, this could also be attributed to my calc and alk levels being low at that time.

Are you using any additives or chemicals? Do you use carbon, ozone, or anything similar?

Sorry for the long post, I am just trying to throw out anything that has helped me with mine. Some pictures of your sump/skimmer setup would probably help. You never know what a second/third/tenth set of eyes will notice.
 
ScottL4619, you bring up some very good points.

I will take the skimmer apart and clean it. I put a 90 elbow on the output valve because the water was splashing everywhere. How can I resolve this without using an elbow. I have a Berlin Sump BS1. It is a very small sump but it was the only thing I could fit under the 95 gallon corner stand. I use a Deep Six hydrometer, and I also double check with a Red Sea hydrometer on occasion. I use Oceanic salt, and I dose kalkwasser.

My parameters are pretty stable.
1.025 SG
Alk: 3.66 - 4.00
Calcium: 450
Magnesium: 1350

The only additive I use is Lugol's.
 
Well, your numbers all look good, and that's about exactly where I keep my tank.

I do not use Lugols, so someone else might have to chime in on that one. Have you been using it since you started running the skimmer? If so, maybe try not using it for a while and see if things improve.

With a small sump, getting the water to not splash is tricky. I run my skimmer externally, and here is a picture of how my return line comes back into the sump on the left side. The tube up above is the drip line for my ATO. Since I use limewater for topoff, dripping it into turbulent water helps to stop crust from forming on top of the water. Using this PVC, the water from my skimmer free falls with no back pressure into the PVC and then out the holes. This is an easy way to eliminate a 90 degree elbow, keep the water from splashing, and it also helps with the bubbles. You will need the Y connection so that the return water can go in one side and air can escape out of the other.

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