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mburnickas
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Agree, but if you look at all the data from the three I listed, your 1260 is not first in line...
that is why I do not get it.
CaptainCoral
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mburnickas.....for internal pumps, Eheim has everything going for it, and there is good reason for all the fanfare. If you can spare the heat exchange, a mag7 will work well too. If you can run an external pump, then the panworld 40 is a good choice for both the ev120 and ev180.
GPH ratings alone arn't enough to judge performance on these skimmers. The ability to handle head pressure well is a more crucial factor. I now look for psi ratings and flow curve charts for pumps in question.
GPH ratings alone arn't enough to judge performance on these skimmers. The ability to handle head pressure well is a more crucial factor. I now look for psi ratings and flow curve charts for pumps in question.
robsmith32
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um, in question about the eheim.. like said before i took a sen900 that has more pressure and gph than the eheim.. put the eheim 1262 in its place, no other changes and the eheim is making the thing foam NICELY.. I don't care what they say eheim makes this skimmer WORK!! i get more production in 12 hours on the ev-180/eheim 1262 combo than i'd get in 3 days with the asm g3.. and now that is saying something.
Yes the ev combo dies down longer after feeding or hands in the tank but when it kicks in, it kicks more than the g3.
with sen .. well takes a while the qo 4000, it got bubbles to the top of box but didn't ever foam up.
It could be that the eheim is more consistent or its less whatever it is, it works MUCh better.
plus after running all day long with part of it sticking out the water.. that area is still cool to the touch.
Yes it cost more for the eheim... but its WORTH it. You're definately getting what paying for with it.
THe sen 900 on it wouldn't get out as much as the asm...
and the sen 700 is the one its rated for.
mburnikas, here, for the ev180
Hi Robert, I would say that the Eheim will give you the best performance, but it will need to be used in conjunction with a valve to regulate flow, since it is a stronger pump that handles pressure very well. This way you would be able to fine tune the flow to give you the highest possible performance. I don't know the actual psi needed, but I would suggest a 700-900 gph pump, depending on how well it handles pressure, which is important with our spray injection skimmers. In order of performance: Iwaki 30 RLT, Eheim 1262, Mag 9, and Mag 7. We haven't tested the Oceanrunner, so I can't give you any personal experience on how that performs. Remember, that some of the larger pumps will need to be regulated. Thanks, and let me know if you have any other questions!- - - - - - - - - - - Steve PrinceCustomer Service Manager
Yes the ev combo dies down longer after feeding or hands in the tank but when it kicks in, it kicks more than the g3.
with sen .. well takes a while the qo 4000, it got bubbles to the top of box but didn't ever foam up.
It could be that the eheim is more consistent or its less whatever it is, it works MUCh better.
plus after running all day long with part of it sticking out the water.. that area is still cool to the touch.
Yes it cost more for the eheim... but its WORTH it. You're definately getting what paying for with it.
THe sen 900 on it wouldn't get out as much as the asm...
and the sen 700 is the one its rated for.
mburnikas, here, for the ev180
Hi Robert, I would say that the Eheim will give you the best performance, but it will need to be used in conjunction with a valve to regulate flow, since it is a stronger pump that handles pressure very well. This way you would be able to fine tune the flow to give you the highest possible performance. I don't know the actual psi needed, but I would suggest a 700-900 gph pump, depending on how well it handles pressure, which is important with our spray injection skimmers. In order of performance: Iwaki 30 RLT, Eheim 1262, Mag 9, and Mag 7. We haven't tested the Oceanrunner, so I can't give you any personal experience on how that performs. Remember, that some of the larger pumps will need to be regulated. Thanks, and let me know if you have any other questions!- - - - - - - - - - - Steve PrinceCustomer Service Manager
robsmith32
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i know its natural to think, why when it costs a good bit more and all the data points to the fact the cheaper should work...
well i haven't tested the mag on the ev180 personally..
but i will say this, out of the 3 pumps that were used, according to the "data" the eheim was the lowest flow out of any of them.
performance wise it is midway between the quiet one and the sen in water output, but foam output it isn't even close. the eheim kicks their tails.
also note how many people have the suggested mags and aren't happy.
Granted they'll work if installed right, but then its still not the output they were hoping for.
And with the recent pricing on the mags, its only a 3rd more to get the eheim and get the full benefits of it..
well i haven't tested the mag on the ev180 personally..
but i will say this, out of the 3 pumps that were used, according to the "data" the eheim was the lowest flow out of any of them.
performance wise it is midway between the quiet one and the sen in water output, but foam output it isn't even close. the eheim kicks their tails.
also note how many people have the suggested mags and aren't happy.
Granted they'll work if installed right, but then its still not the output they were hoping for.
And with the recent pricing on the mags, its only a 3rd more to get the eheim and get the full benefits of it..
mburnickas
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ok, just wondered since they are all very close.
So is MD the best price at $119?
Just want to make sure since I have pumps (extra) up the %^&%. If the 1260 will help my EV-120, I will buy tonight.
So is MD the best price at $119?
Just want to make sure since I have pumps (extra) up the %^&%. If the 1260 will help my EV-120, I will buy tonight.
robsmith32
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them drsfosterandsmith and bigalsonline all have the same price, they vary on shipping.
drsfosterandsmith i can say have great customer service.
drsfosterandsmith i can say have great customer service.
mburnickas
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I think it is like my weber grill. All have the smae price.
Marine depot is the same, $119 but $9.99 shipping.
I only hope this is the last pump that I might try on this skimmer since I am starting to go nuts with it.
Marine depot is the same, $119 but $9.99 shipping.
I only hope this is the last pump that I might try on this skimmer since I am starting to go nuts with it.
rob, good to hear the ev blows the asm away. With the flow choked back, where is the air setting? Interested in seeing if more air vs less flow works better.
Here's what I got out of the cup after leaving cleaning for a week, pretty gruesome stuff. Normally clean it every 3 days and it's less offensive.
Had to wait for the Mrs to go out for this pic!
mburnickas I would try the eheim to and make sure the skimmer set up follows the basic rules. eg raw water feed, level sump etc.
Here's what I got out of the cup after leaving cleaning for a week, pretty gruesome stuff. Normally clean it every 3 days and it's less offensive.
Had to wait for the Mrs to go out for this pic!
mburnickas I would try the eheim to and make sure the skimmer set up follows the basic rules. eg raw water feed, level sump etc.
CaptainCoral
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I found some 10 month old pics of my ev180/mag9 combo. The ev400 upgrade sent it into temporary unemployment. It shall return! 
CaptainCoral
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Yeah, i had my carbon in there too. It served to relieve all the water splashing noises as well. Come to think of it, I think I'll make a new one for the ev400. 
Leopardshark
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Captain,
WhatÃ"šÃ‚´s and whyÃ"šÃ‚´s that think around the air valve?
To prvent from noise?
WhatÃ"šÃ‚´s and whyÃ"šÃ‚´s that think around the air valve?
To prvent from noise?
CaptainCoral
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I was trying a little experiment to see if air contaminates were effecting skimmate. That's carbon in an old nylon stocking. It did nothng but make the skimmer ugly. That experiment only lasted a week or so.
robsmith32
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actually blootang, i think i have more flow, as you mentioned you're level at top of box, mine is almost halfway up the riser..
Leopardshark
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I understand you, IÃ"šÃ‚´ve made a lot of experiments which ended being a total waste of time and money, but some others worked better<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7224699#post7224699 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CaptainCoral
I was trying a little experiment to see if air contaminates were effecting skimmate. That's carbon in an old nylon stocking. It did nothng but make the skimmer ugly. That experiment only lasted a week or so.
CaptainCoral
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It is a good idea for when household cleaning chemicals are being used or if there are cigarette smokers around.
mburnickas
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ozone works great for that!
mburnickas
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1260 pump is ordered! Thank to you guys! LOL
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