Triggerfish
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most recently i used biozyme. did not have very good results with it.. even dosing it daily for a week, it didnt help much.
maybe ya have to use the entire contents to have quicker results. who knows.
Are flame angles difficult to get though quarantine?
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most recently i used biozyme. did not have very good results with it.. even dosing it daily for a week, it didnt help much.
maybe ya have to use the entire contents to have quicker results. who knows.
RichConley
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8035830#post8035830 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Angel*Fish
ajm-vfr,
I wouldn't say that this was causative in the death of your flame, but IMO sterile hospital style quarantine conditions are not preferable for dwarf angels. A better quarantine would be 20g minimum (preferably 30g) tank with some life covered LR and macroalgae -- the more the better. The LR should be stacked loosely such that many swim through and hiding areas are created.
I can't imagine a situation in which I would treat a Centropyge with copper - some species are more sensitive than others, but I wouldn't use it even for one with visible signs of ich. There are other methods - hyposalinity for one.
If a marine fish looks healthy & acts healthy usually an optimal environment provides the fish a situation in which it's natural defenses can take care of diseases. Optimal for these little angels is the above described quarantine which is better than tossing them in the main tank because they don't have the stress of working out territory/space issues with other fish. Excellent nutrition plus availability of tempting food (eg live brine) are important. Excellent nutrition for angels includes LR with lots of life including microalgae. A diatom bloom in your quarantine would be a real comfort to most Centropyges. Some, including flames, appreciate some filamentous algae.
Live brine can even be gut loaded with Selcon (or other) before offering to make it more healthy.
I'd bet that your fish was doomed anyway.But the above suggestions can mean the difference between success and failure with a fish that comes to you in less than perfect shape.
Hope this helps.
Angelfish, I started reading this thread and was about to start harping about how dwarf angels are reef grazers, and live their entire lives within inches of a plentiful source of food and shelter (rock). Taking them from this and putting them in a clean quarantine stresses them out, and during this time of stress, you're keeping them from grazing, and getting food.
Looks like you already did it for me though.
RichConley
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ajm, contrary to popular belief, nitrites aren't really that bad in saltwater.
Whats the common suggestion for high nitrites in freshwater? Add NaCl. We've got TONS of NaCl in our water. Nitrite just isnt really a problem in saltwater.
Whats the common suggestion for high nitrites in freshwater? Add NaCl. We've got TONS of NaCl in our water. Nitrite just isnt really a problem in saltwater.
Angel*Fish
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Yes, I'm quite the harpy, lol - maybe I should change my screen name
Seriously, it's funny, a couple of years ago everybody seemed really careful when adding Centropyges to their tanks related to concerns about whether the tank was established enough. I would liken it the mandarin issue. With the resulting angel successes, the pendulum seems to have swung (is that a word?) the other way - now we're forgetting what made them "easy"
BTW Those comments are not at all meant to refer to anyone on this thread - I'm only speaking generally
