Are Green Slimer and Purple Bonsai safe to Dip in Revive? Heard you cannot Dip Deep W

[that Fish Guy]

Are Green Slimer and Purple Bonsai safe to Dip in Revive?

I have heard that you cannot Dip Deep Water Acros in Revive because they will die.

Are either of these Deep Water Acros?

By the way how can you tell if an Acro is Deep Water or Not?

Do they look a certain way or something?

All my SPS are Fading in Color and the Green Slimer looks white underneath.

I am worried that I may have Acro Eating Flatworms.

Please help.

 

[Arkayology]

I have dipped both my GARF bonsai and green slimer in revive and they survived it just fine.

"deepwater" acros are just a term for smooth skinned acros.

 

[that Fish Guy]

I have dipped both my GARF bonsai and green slimer in revive and they survived it just fine.

"deepwater" acros are just a term for smooth skinned acros.

Isn't Purple Bonsai "Smooth Skinned"?

It is very Flat in my opinion.

How long have you Dipped them for in Revive?

 

[Jettareefer]

I dip everything after getting both MEN and Red bugs within weeks of each other, this came a shock because I Inspect my corals for 10 minutes sometimes longer before adding them to the Dt. I will continue to dip religiously, if it can't make it through a dip it wasn't meant to be in my tank. I dipped my red dragon in a normal dose of revive for 15 minute they are super delicate considered a deep water type acro. My regular corals I do 2x the normal dose for 25 minutes this is what I would do with slimer. Your corals look toasted for 2 days but don't worrying if they are healthy and not compromised in anyway they will pull through. I usually see all pest fall off almost instantly make sure to basted them while in the dip, and the rinse well with tank water. Good luck!

 

[that Fish Guy]

I dip everything after getting both MEN and Red bugs within weeks of each other, this came a shock because I Inspect my corals for 10 minutes sometimes longer before adding them to the Dt. I will continue to dip religiously, if it can't make it through a dip it wasn't meant to be in my tank. I dipped my red dragon in a normal dose of revive for 15 minute they are super delicate considered a deep water type acro. My regular corals I do 2x the normal dose for 25 minutes this is what I would do with slimer. Your corals look toasted for 2 days but don't worrying if they are healthy and not compromised in anyway they will pull through. I usually see all pest fall off almost instantly make sure to basted them while in the dip, and the rinse well with tank water. Good luck!

They recommend no more than 15 Minutes and that is for non sensitive Coral.

And Double Dose too?

I am concerned about doing this.

Do the rest of you recommend this practice?

I heard that a Red Dragon in any Dip was instant death for even for short period of time.

 

[Jettareefer]

If you don't feel comfortable with what I said above just do the normal dosage and see how it goes I use revive which is mild compared to others available on the market. I sometimes see minor tissue loss nothing that doesn't grow right back. If you do have flat worms you have to go heavy or they won't die unfortunately. I have never had anything die from dipping I also never let them sit out of water for very long though.

 

[that Fish Guy]

If you don't feel comfortable with what I said above just do the normal dosage and see how it goes I use revive which is mild compared to others available on the market. I sometimes see minor tissue loss nothing that doesn't grow right back. If you do have flat worms you have to go heavy or they won't die unfortunately. I have never had anything die from dipping I also never let them sit out of water for very long though.

I have just gotten bad advice online before.

For instance one guy said he gives all his new Fish Freshwater Dips for 1 Hour.
He also said that he had done it hundreds of times without ever having a fish die.

Now even though about 20 People said that they did Freshwater Dips anywhere from 30 Seconds to 5 Minutes tops I went ahead and dipped a Blue Hippo Tang for 60 Minutes and it died.

I am not saying you are lying or giving bad advice I am just saying it happens and usually people say do less than recommended.

I have never ever heard someone ever say do more than recommended for anything not just fish related stuff.

I hope you understand my concern.

Some people troll and want to harm others.

Or perhaps the person I told you about was simply joking around and figured that nobody would take him seriously and realize that he was only joking.

But unfortunatly I did take him seriously and a Fish lost its life because of it.

Nobody bothered to Chime in and say hey that is a terrible idea or say he is just joking do not do what he just said.

We have to be careful about what we say on the internet.

 

[Crna]

I've dipped both Bonsai and Green Slimer in Bayer and they did great. Can't remember if bayer does anything to help with flatworms though...

 

[cugly]

Hawkins echinata is one that you cannot dip in revive will kill

 

[Jettareefer]

I totally agree with you, you just have to be careful! I have been in the hobby for 10 years and never once freshwater dipped a fish unless it was already dead to find pest, sorry to hear about your blue hippo.

 

[Tweaked]

Hawkins echinata is one that you cannot dip in revive will kill

+1 Hawkins, Dragons, and the likes cannot be dipped. QT is the only option. However, they are so delicate that bugs on these corals would be noticed easily.

 

[tannersmith2000]

I dip everything to the max. I use 2x amt of recommended CoralRx for at least 10 mins. I inspect, baste, inspect and baste some more. So far, it's worked for me. The green slimmer will be fine.

 

[dadummy]

green slimer and bonsai should be fine, have been dipping them every week for a few months in revive.

I did lose a colony of loripes in revive

 

[bravanc]

Use the Bayer method for all your dipping it really works well. I even seen it nock off flat worms but will not kill them unless you use a higher dosage and longer time.

 

[frankyrivera]

The only thing that would kill a green slimer is a hydnophora sting lol. Trust me I know. I have dipped left out of the water on top of my tank netting directly under 6 T5's until it almost dried. They don't call it a slimer for nothing that thing was nasty but it lived. That thing is very hardy. I've even dipped my purple monster against everyone's advice it too lived check my avatar lol. Then again I don't baby stuff in my tank you either survive the dip or die and get replaced

 

[sahin]

Are Green Slimer and Purple Bonsai safe to Dip in Revive?

Yes.

I have heard that you cannot Dip Deep Water Acros in Revive because they will die.

If you dip for too long or too strong a concentration then compared to other Acros, yes Deepwaters can certainly be killed easily.

Are either of these Deep Water Acros?

No.

By the way how can you tell if an Acro is Deep Water or Not?
Do they look a certain way or something?

Here is a link to a sample of "Deepwaters". http://www.leonardosreef.com/2012/08/deepwater-acropora-care/

All my SPS are Fading in Color and the Green Slimer looks white underneath.
I am worried that I may have Acro Eating Flatworms.
Please help.

Have a read of this thread for signs to look for: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1730682

Have you dipped, basted and found any AEFW's?

What are you water parameters? Filtration? Etc? What are you dosing?

I dip everything after getting both MEN and Red bugs within weeks of each other, this came a shock because I Inspect my corals for 10 minutes sometimes longer before adding them to the Dt. I will continue to dip religiously, if it can't make it through a dip it wasn't meant to be in my tank. I dipped my red dragon in a normal dose of revive for 15 minute they are super delicate considered a deep water type acro. My regular corals I do 2x the normal dose for 25 minutes this is what I would do with slimer. Your corals look toasted for 2 days but don't worrying if they are healthy and not compromised in anyway they will pull through. I usually see all pest fall off almost instantly make sure to basted them while in the dip, and the rinse well with tank water. Good luck!

+1

I have at least 8 different "deepwater" acros. Turaki, Echinata etc etc. All went through Revive dips just fine. I've ALWAYS used Revive.

I also dip my corals at 4 times the recommended amount of Revive, except for Deepwater which get the recommended amount and only dip for about 3 minutes.

Having dipped at least 300 corals over the years for myself and others, you sort of get a "feeling" for how long to dip a coral etc.

If you can get hold of Bayer, then use that instead as it is reported to be much kinder on the acros than Revive.

 

[Arkayology]

You will have to decide for yourself what you want to do, but I have dipped my hawkins, 30k granulosa, bonsai, and red dragon in revive @ recommend dosage and then in Bayer and they all survived it. I think the trick is to keep the water moving and not let them sit in it for too long.

 

[sahin]

You will have to decide for yourself what you want to do, but I have dipped my hawkins, 30k granulosa, bonsai, and red dragon in revive @ recommend dosage and then in Bayer and they all survived it. I think the trick is to keep the water moving and not let them sit in it for too long.

Yup, I have Lokani, Granulosa as well as the Turaki and Echinata.

Like you, I sit by the dipping container swirling the water with a turkey baster. Every 20 seconds or so I will blast the coral with water from the baster to see if any AEFW's come off. Obviously be careful here as heavy blasting with a jet of water on Deepwater/smooth skinned acros will pull the flesh off. Milleporas get the worst blasting by the turkey baster etc.

I also sit there with a stopwatch. Corals I know are sensitive will get dipped shorter time than others. I just inspect these a bit more closeup etc.

End of the day, a tiny pico tank setup as QT is your best friend here. You can dip deepwaters with a much less concentration of Dip and then QT for a couple of weeks, inspecting every 3-4 days.

 

[Jettareefer]

I have dipped a Hawkins to, Sahin it's funny you mentioned millepora's it's true they alway look the worst after dipping IME as well!

 

[the_real_brian]

+1 Hawkins, Dragons, and the likes cannot be dipped. QT is the only option. However, they are so delicate that bugs on these corals would be noticed easily.

I recently dipped my Hawkins in Bayer insect killer for at least 10 minutes and it came through unscathed.