Are Pakistani Angels reef safe

[skeeter_ca]

I saw a beautiful one at the LFS yesterday. He called it a Pakistani Angel. It had a Orange forehead, brownish-black body with bright yellow on the edges of the tail fins. Does anyone know if it would go with softies and LPS's.

skeeter

 

[skeeter-doc]

hello skeeter, this is also skeeter,

I would say it is probably safe with the soft corals, but probably not with any LPS

 

[GIJOE007]

Angles are one fish that are definatly hit or miss. I've seen many reef tanks with them in and have no issues. You take the same type of angel and put it in another reef tank and it will eat coral left and right. IMHO its 50/50. You could always try, but just watch him and your coral and see if you notice any picking marks or change in your coral. You could always sell or return if he doesnt work out.

 

[skeeter_ca]

Of course the owner said he was reef safe but i imagine he would say almost anything to make a sale. I do not trust him, he seems to have very little buisness (bad location). I always take the advice of LHS owners with a salt brick. I'll have to think on it.

skeeter

 

[Bruno3047]

This might help:

http://www.petsolutions.com/Pakistan-Butterflyfish+I112600L+C16216.aspx


Make sure he's eating. Hard fish to acclimate to a new tank, and almost implossible if he's not already eating.

GL.

 

[Peter Eichler]

If we're in fact talking about a Pakistani Butterly rather than some Angelfish, do NOT add it to your reef aquarium. Simply not worth the risk.

 

[snorvich]

Oh, a Pakistani BUTTERFLY is NOT reef safe and is in fact an obligate coral eater.

 

[glassbox-design]

Depends on the tank and the reefer. They (C.collare)are obligate polyp eaters and will eat your SPS polyps.

If you have an SPS tank with enough large corals to keep it happy and dont mind some damage to those corals, they can be a good choice. There are not many people like that

We had one, but came in unhealthy and sick and lost it to a gill fluke... We plan on adding at least a pair possibly 3 if we can find the right specimens.

 

[SDguy]

I didn't know C. collare was one of the obligate coralivores (myers, ornate, triangulum, etc etc...). I thought it did pretty well in captivity

 

[glassbox-design]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12557935#post12557935 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
I didn't know C. collare was one of the obligate coralivores (myers, ornate, triangulum, etc etc...). I thought it did pretty well in captivity

Perhaps obligate was the wrong word. In the wild this is their primary diet, but supposedly some specimens adapt well to prepared foods. The only place I have read about them adapting well is WetWebMedia, but I have yet to witness it.

In a reef they revert to their natural instincts Within 1 minute of introduction our little girl had swam through the entire tank and taken a polyp or two out of every SPS we have :lol:


One day I hope to be able to properly care for an Ornate... beautiful fish.

 

[SDguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12557988#post12557988 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by glassbox-design
One day I hope to be able to properly care for an Ornate... beautiful fish.

Ugh, wouldn't that be fantastic?!

 

[jmaneyapanda]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12557935#post12557935 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
I didn't know C. collare was one of the obligate coralivores (myers, ornate, triangulum, etc etc...). I thought it did pretty well in captivity

I agree. I have seen many in fish only tanks where they eat prepared foods. The Georgia Aquaraium has one in the display in their gift shop, and it is just tile and glass sculptures, no live rock, and certainly no corals.

 

[Peter Eichler]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12558290#post12558290 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
Ugh, wouldn't that be fantastic?!

No way, Chaetodon austriacus or larvatus for me!

 

[SDguy]

LOL, too funny! Copycat!!!

#1 on my list:

#2:

 

[Peter Eichler]

Also, there has to be a lot of spare Pocillopora out there, so I'll take a Quadrimaculatus as well.

 

[glassbox-design]

#1

#2

and the one we'll never get...

Next on the list for us burgess, copperband and collare's.

 

[jmaneyapanda]

I think I came pretty close to hitting the nail on the head with my pyramids. Gorgeous, cheap (relatively speaking), and reef safe to boot!

 

[SDguy]

Just wish they didn't have brown heads

 

[glassbox-design]

that's why there's C. declivis ; )

 

[jmaneyapanda]

I love the contrast of the black/brown and white. Declivus are gorgeous, but I could get 6 pyramids for the rpice of 1 declivus, and I wouldnt sleep well at night with that in my reef tank.

At least thats the rationalization I am making, and I am sticking to it!

(secretly searching on where to purchase a declivus and tinker butterfly)....