ATB vs. Vertex Alpha Cone
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You had to put a 1500 on the 170 to get it to work? Since they come with a 1000 right? I definitely need a more powerful pump on my 200. 5 days running and my cup is almost completely dry.
Mojo did you check out the 200 and firgure any tricks to make it work? The i-tech 400 pulls 1/4 inch the first 2 days it ran then i had to return it but the alpha does absolutely nothing. I don't want my tank to get dirty enough for this skimmer to start working.
Mojo did you check out the 200 and firgure any tricks to make it work? The i-tech 400 pulls 1/4 inch the first 2 days it ran then i had to return it but the alpha does absolutely nothing. I don't want my tank to get dirty enough for this skimmer to start working.
coral_lagoon
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No, that pump came with the Alpha 170. At Premium Aquatics..
vanillagorila
It stings the nostrils
neck size???
Huh? I will have to tell my friend. His says red dragon 1000 on his sticker. wonder whats up with that? I didn't see it myself but he looked at a pic on his camera and told me thats what it said. He is pretty smart so I am sure he can read something so easy. I think the 200 needs the 250 pump or nozzle or whatever is different. I am getting less than 1400 lph air. vertex website says 1700-2000.
coral_lagoon
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You mean the diameter of the neck? Or the height?
coral_lagoon
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Did he buy it at Premium Aquatics? Over at Premium Aquatics, both the 170 and the 200 come with the Red Dragon 1500 pump. With that being said, my 170 keeps pulling up dark skimate everyday. I have my skimmer water level set real low to..
vanillagorila
It stings the nostrils
The motorblock is a askoll 1500 on all of the alphas. They must of mixed up the stickers. Each model has a different pinwheel/nozzle to give them more or less air pull
coral_lagoon
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http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merc...&Product_Code=VX-PS-A170&Category_Code=Vertex
TECHNICAL DATA
Alpha 170
Capacity 40g - 200g
6.75" Base Plate
Pump: Red Dragon 1500
Airflow / Waterflow: TBA
Footprint: 12.5" x 7.75" (Could be closer to 11.5" if you
cut the silicone coupling down)
TECHNICAL DATA
Alpha 170
Capacity 40g - 200g
6.75" Base Plate
Pump: Red Dragon 1500
Airflow / Waterflow: TBA
Footprint: 12.5" x 7.75" (Could be closer to 11.5" if you
cut the silicone coupling down)
vanillagorila
It stings the nostrils
don't trust what the sticker says. the energy consumption numbers can be off as well.
edit: to try and say it nicer.
edit: to try and say it nicer.
vanillagorila
It stings the nostrils
diameter. IMO its too big for them to perform well on smaller tanks.
but there are always exceptions. your skimmer looks like its working great.
Not to be a jerk but I don't believe the skimmer knows how many gallons a tank has. I think it knows a level of nutrients in the water. When the level is depleted it should shut down. to me this gives you headroom. I want my skimmer to shut down so I know it has done it's job. If it's always going it means it can't keep up. My skimmer just never has worked. Jeremy has a 200 on his 70ish gallon tank and his works great., Not sure what is different but mine is useless so far. I have 110 gallons of water. I am feeding 1-2 full cubes of mysis,brine and cyclops every day. I should be doing something besides growing algea by now.
Back to the neck diameter I think you are very right about them being to big for these skimmers. They should do better with smaller necks or a more powerful pump. They also undersized the discharge/wedge pipe. Why not use something larger just in case?
Back to the neck diameter I think you are very right about them being to big for these skimmers. They should do better with smaller necks or a more powerful pump. They also undersized the discharge/wedge pipe. Why not use something larger just in case?
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