Attempting to breed clownfish - log

[FB]

A couple of things from this morning.

The first is I only have 1 larvae left from the last hatch.

Second, I stuck my hand in one of my system tanks this morning and felt a strange tingleing feeling in my finger. I took out my volt meter and found some stray voltage in my tank. I started unplugging things one by one. When I unplugged the Maxi-Jet 600 The voltage went away. I plugged it back in and it started to burn up. So I pulled it and tossed it. Thats the second MJ to go in the last 6 months. Installing the GFCI is on my list of things to do!

Third. I have been using Instant algae Nano 3600. I have been taking a couple of drops out of the bottle and mixing it with water and then feeding my rots with it. I was wondering what colour should the water turn. Should it be dark green? I am getting a dirty green/brown colour. Just wondered if that was normal. The bottle has a best before date of December 2008 on it however the seal was not broken until Just before Christmas and I am planning on freezing it into ice cubes today or tomorrow. Just wondering if it has expired. It smells the same as the concentrated liquid phyto I buy from reefcrew.

Thanks

FB

 

[rkelman]

Only 1 bummer. Lack of food I assume?

You don't have a GFCI? That stray voltage could have easily killed you had it gone longer before you found it. I would say this should be Job #1 like tomorrow... They are very easy to install. I'd get the 20amp one. They are more money but with the power draw you are putting on it.. I have mine hooked up first on my racks circuit so it protects all my outlets. I wouldn't be without it.

I tint mine light green. It should almost clear between feedings. If it totally clears you aren't adding enough. If its really green still then you can add less.

 

[FB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14110541#post14110541 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rkelman
Only 1 bummer. Lack of food I assume?

You don't have a GFCI? That stray voltage could have easily killed you had it gone longer before you found it. I would say this should be Job #1 like tomorrow... They are very easy to install. I'd get the 20amp one. They are more money but with the power draw you are putting on it.. I have mine hooked up first on my racks circuit so it protects all my outlets. I wouldn't be without it.

I tint mine light green. It should almost clear between feedings. If it totally clears you aren't adding enough. If its really green still then you can add less.

The voltage is still there and I can't figure it out. Not sure what to do. I can't shut it down. I have the GFCI just have not installed it.

I really wanted to know what colour your algae was. Does it have a brownish tinge to it or has mine spoiled.

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14112668#post14112668 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FB
The voltage is still there and I can't figure it out. Not sure what to do. I can't shut it down. I have the GFCI just have not installed it.

I really wanted to know what colour your algae was. Does it have a brownish tinge to it or has mine spoiled.

Try to ground the tank with a titanium probe to see the outcome.
My GFCI will not trip with just a low voltage reading in the water .
I had the same problem and even with a GFCI i was still getting a tingled feeling when my hand was first submerged in the water but the titanium probe stop all that. I still don't know where the voltage is coming from, it is no 110v in the tank anywhere. The three tunze streems are 24V so i don't know yet but i still looking to see if i can find the problem.

 

[FB]

OK I'm stumped. Every time I plug something in I get a little more voltage. It is very small like 1 volt and it's AC not DC. I am getting 0 amps obviously or I would be on my *** dead. I am using a volt meter by the way not my body.

I plug in my pump I get a very small amount. I unplug that and plug in my skimmer. I get a very small amount. I unplug the skimmer and plug in a heater and get a very small amount. Each time I add something I get more voltage.

I cleaned up my wiring a little some of the lines were across the floor. I picked them up and put them above the water (I know - DUMB A@@). After doing this the tingleing is gone (I know - DUMB A@@) but I am still registering 1 volt. Even a tank not connected to my system but plugged into the same circuit is registering 1 volt. If I unplug stuff in my system the seperate tank decreases. It obviously has something to do with my main plug not being grounded properly or something.

Anyway any suggestions would be greatly appreicated.

I will try put the GFCI in this weekend.

Thanks

FB

 

[rkelman]

You are going to get some voltage from every item that's normal. Now what a normal amount is I don't know sorry. You may have to make a post that an electrician will see and help with. My Rotifer diet is quite green.

 

[FB]

Did a 25 gallon water change on my reef tank. I used that water to do a 25 gallon water change on my system. Not sure if I should do this or not but figured I would give it a try. My nitrates on my reef tank are zero so it will help bring down my nitrates on my system.

After the water change my B&W went nuts cleaning and dancing with each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcOUbtWAG8c

Here is a video of my Picasso pair that won't go more than an inch away from each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu2sLcdNmTA

Here is a video of some of my juvenilles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rsxOzljV-k

Also here is what 1ml of instant algae looks like when I mix it up. As you can see it is kind of a brownish/green colour. Just wondered if this was normal.

 

[rkelman]

Cool videos. I like the one of the Juvi's they always think you are going to feed them don't they? Your IA is definitely browner than my Rotifer Diet. Rotifer diet looks like super dark phyto when its diluted.

 

[Lifes A Beach]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14124883#post14124883 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FB


Also here is what 1ml of instant algae looks like when I mix it up. As you can see it is kind of a brownish/green colour. Just wondered if this was normal.

Something is not quite right with your instant algae. I use the Nanno 3600 and it should look like a light bright green color when it's added to r/o water the way you described. In it's concentrated form, it should be a dark green color. If the date is already expired, that may be the reason for the foul color. As soon as I receive my shipment of Instant Algae, I immediately pour it into 2 oz. cups and freeze it immediately. Then, I can thaw a cup as I need it.

When I mix it with r/o water, I add 1 tsp. of Instant Algae 3600 to 1 cup of water. I feed the rotifers 2 oz. of this mixture twice a day (to a 5 gal. bucket). That way, I'm not adding too much r/o water which would dilute the salinity of the rot water but the rots are still getting plenty of the nanno.

Hope this helps!

--Barbara
:fish1:

 

[FB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14126403#post14126403 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lifes A Beach
Something is not quite right with your instant algae. I use the Nanno 3600 and it should look like a light bright green color when it's added to r/o water the way you described. In it's concentrated form, it should be a dark green color. If the date is already expired, that may be the reason for the foul color. As soon as I receive my shipment of Instant Algae, I immediately pour it into 2 oz. cups and freeze it immediately. Then, I can thaw a cup as I need it.

When I mix it with r/o water, I add 1 tsp. of Instant Algae 3600 to 1 cup of water. I feed the rotifers 2 oz. of this mixture twice a day (to a 5 gal. bucket). That way, I'm not adding too much r/o water which would dilute the salinity of the rot water but the rots are still getting plenty of the nanno.

Hope this helps!

--Barbara
:fish1:

Thanks

For what it's worth it does not smell bad. I am going to freeze what I have to save any if possible. The rots still eat the stuff, however they may not be nutritional enough for larvae. We will have to wait and see.

Hopefully it will work as another bottle is $107 + shipping up here.

FB

 

[Lifes A Beach]

You may want to contact Reed Mariculture to see what they have to say about the nutritional value after the expiration date. It doesn't make sense to be feeding them something that is not beneficial especially since the fry depend on healthy rots. We all know that it's hard enough to keep rotifer cultures going and adding something that may also foul the water isn't worth it. We pay $70 for a quart bottle + shipping down here. It's expensive and I understand why you're hesitant to throw it out but if you're already having problems with fry survival, my advice would be to bite the bullet and buy a fresh bottle and hopefully this would increase your chances of survival. Next time, freeze it as soon as you get it. If you don't have rots, you won't have anything!

--Barbara
:fish1:

 

[FB]

I emailed reed mariculture and Randy was suprised by the colour but said if the rotifers are still eating it and it dosen't smell bad it should be fine. I will keep using it for now and see what my results are.

Thanks

FB

 

[rkelman]

I hope its ok for you. Its too pricey to throw out.

 

[FB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14141586#post14141586 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rkelman
I hope its ok for you. Its too pricey to throw out.

Tell me about it. However I did not pay full price for it!

 

[FB]

My original pair laid a nice patch of eggs tonight this will be batch 5.

 

[Lifes A Beach]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14141675#post14141675 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FB
Tell me about it. However I did not pay full price for it!

Maybe that explains the color! You get what you pay for, as they say. lol

 

[FB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14141929#post14141929 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lifes A Beach
Maybe that explains the color! You get what you pay for, as they say. lol

Not really I got it as a package from somebody who was getting out of breeding. 3 pairs of clowns some tanks and the nanno. It was still sealed when I got it. I meant to freeze it earlier but kept putting it off. My own fault. I have to say my rots are doing better than ever LOL.

FB

 

[FB]

I HAVE GSM EGGS

Not sure when they were laid they are very dark in colour and maybe about 100 eggs or so. I am going to watch them and will not attempt to raise them don't want to spook them yet!

Later FB

 

[saltwater4life1]

Been flipping through the pages trying to catch up from the summer i think... lots of new stuff! This makes me wanna get into breeding them so bad... I always love them when they're babies they're so adorable. lol
Best of luck with the new eggs

 

[FB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14129447#post14129447 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lifes A Beach
You may want to contact Reed Mariculture to see what they have to say about the nutritional value after the expiration date. It doesn't make sense to be feeding them something that is not beneficial especially since the fry depend on healthy rots. We all know that it's hard enough to keep rotifer cultures going and adding something that may also foul the water isn't worth it. We pay $70 for a quart bottle + shipping down here. It's expensive and I understand why you're hesitant to throw it out but if you're already having problems with fry survival, my advice would be to bite the bullet and buy a fresh bottle and hopefully this would increase your chances of survival. Next time, freeze it as soon as you get it. If you don't have rots, you won't have anything!

--Barbara
:fish1:

I received another email from Randy Reed regarding the algae. He said that it would be impossible to asses the nutrional profile of the algae so he could not guarantee the affects of feeding the rotifers to the larvae. I guess we will see in about a week.

FB