ATTN: LFS employees

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at least he didn't try to pull them off and the dogs came in with 8 bloody nipples each
 
Once I saw a lady that was going to buy her little boy a fish at WM. The fish all had ick and were dying so I quietly told the lady that the fish were ill and they won't survive if you buy some.
I couldn't bear the thought of that 5 year old's precious fish dying on him. The bad part is is that they would have sold them to her.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10777398#post10777398 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kathainbowen
..... but.... see.... you would think that me, I would just go on my merry way and avoid that shop from now on? No. I'm a Jersey Girl. I've always said a Jersey Girl will make all your dreams come true, but, if you cross her voice, she'll go out of her way to destroy you. I went on my way, still fuming from the PetSmart incident. So, when I actually find the stuff at the next shop down the highway, bought it, turned around for home, and was about to pass the aforementioned PetSmart..... I had to stop in. I'm sorry. I was FURIOUS at being thrown out of a shop for making the simple request for a prodct that I knew to be legal.


I'm loving your stories, because you include so much color into the picture painted. Don't stop, Jersey Girl! :thumbsup:
 
Re: ATTN: LFS employees

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10176122#post10176122 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by littlefish72

Mid afternoon one Saturday we sell a guy a power compact fixture for his 75 gallon that was like 3 or 4 hundred bucks. About five minutes before closing time he walks in with the fixture and says it's not working for some reason. He brings it over to the counter so we can plug it in and check it out. I plug it in and nothing happens so i reach over to the swich and *CLICK* and the fixture lights up the whole room. The guy is clearly embarrassed and says "You've got to be kidding me." He picks up his fixture, walks out of the store, and we never see him again.

Oh this one is funny..
 
Went into my LFS (big chain, but I won't name it) today and saw a flame angel completely covered with ich. I turned the corner and saw a clown with ich, and a couple of dead clowns in that tank also.

So, I was curious, and snagged an employee as she walked by:

"Do you ever treat these tanks with copper?"

She stopped and looked thoughtfully into the tank with the poor flame angel. Then she said,

"I'm not really sure. Why? Do you see some in there?"

:)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10843328#post10843328 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by iwishtofish
Went into my LFS (big chain, but I won't name it) today and saw a flame angel completely covered with ich. I turned the corner and saw a clown with ich, and a couple of dead clowns in that tank also.

So, I was curious, and snagged an employee as she walked by:

"Do you ever treat these tanks with copper?"

She stopped and looked thoughtfully into the tank with the poor flame angel. Then she said,

"I'm not really sure. Why? Do you see some in there?"

:)
Thats funny but sad at the same time.:mixed:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10843328#post10843328 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by iwishtofish
Went into my LFS (big chain, but I won't name it) today and saw a flame angel completely covered with ich. I turned the corner and saw a clown with ich, and a couple of dead clowns in that tank also.

So, I was curious, and snagged an employee as she walked by:

"Do you ever treat these tanks with copper?"

She stopped and looked thoughtfully into the tank with the poor flame angel. Then she said,

"I'm not really sure. Why? Do you see some in there?"

:)

Let me guess,
petco, petsmart?? anywhere close.
 
A former tank maintenance customer of mine used to drive me crazy when she would call to tell me her "swirly thing" wasn't working right. Umm, we call that your skimmer, as I have told you 100 times now. I would always tell her the proper names of her equipment, fish, and corals and she would always rename them to her own liking. Hey, I don't care what you call them at home but when you are trying to describe a problem to me over the phone I need to be able to have some idea of what you're talking about.

She is no longer a customer since she became angry when I didn't respond to a phone call (made on a Saturday afternoon, sorry, not home). She was at another lfs and wanted to know if the corals she was considering buying there would be OK in her tank. Gee, you mean the salesperson at the other lfs doesn't know what you're describing when you call your frogspawn a white wavy thing and your zoanthids little green flowery things? Imagine that? And imagine her wanting my advice on what to buy from another store! Gutsy.

Laurie
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10783237#post10783237 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
I'm loving your stories, because you include so much color into the picture painted. Don't stop, Jersey Girl! :thumbsup:

Aw! Thank-you!!!

:love2:

I'm actually starting to run out of my more classic tales between this and the previous "Overheard in the LFS" stories, like my all time favorite, the "shark lady." Crazy customers and people in general just seem to be attracted to me like I've got a big lightning-rod-for-stupidity sticking out the back of my shirt.



*thinking cap*

Ah! I've got a good one for you. The 20G Lady.

So, I'd been working in the LFS for a while and getting pretty settled into my job. My manager had way too many maintenance accounts and was trying to get me into taking on some of his simpler and smaller clients. I finally agreed for this one woman who was a regular shopper and just seemed absolutely desperate to get her tank cleaned of cyano. The poor lady had been complaining for weeks upon weeks about a green film all over her tank and was thinking about throwing in the towel. She asked if I'd do maintenance for her, and I agreed since I felt really bad for her. I mean, she'd always been a sweet lady... in the store.

This, however, is where things all changed.

I knew her tank from description, a fairly basic 20G FOWLR setup. She said the water was a "bit low." So, at the end of work, I packed the trunk of my tiny car with 21 gallons of saltwater, 7 gallons of freshwater, and the maintenance gear. I had to make a guess, since she was so pressed for emergency maitenance that I didn't have the opportunity to do an estimate for her tank. I overpacked, figuring that my tank was almost due for a water change and my to fill up my top-off bin. I also figured that a 20G tank would only take me maybe an hour at the most to really get up to her house, do my job, and get home, with plenty of time to make dinner and putz my way through water changing my own tank.

I get there, and it IMMEDIATELY becomes quite clear that this is not the case.

Her 20G tank is missing about, oh, six to seven inches of water.

Yes. Six to seven inches. As in almost a half a foot. As in about HALF the content of the tank. The entire tank was covered in a think, green slime, classic cyano but to a level I'd NEVER seen. What little water was in the tank, I couldn't see with all the cyano everywhere! When I saw her tank, I almost dropped one of my 7 gallon jugs right on her yappy little min pin dog (who was a pain of a dog, but was an adorable pain of a dog- I would have felt really bad dropping a full jug on her, especially since the dog already had a cast). It was so low, it didn't even touch the bottom of the HOB filter, which was still plugged in like it was going to run.

When asked about it, the woman told me the same line she used in the shop. "It's just a bit low!"

.... *sigh* I crack out my tests. The specific gravity is through the roof. The pH is through the floor. The nitrites and nitrates are off the charts. I kept finding myself startled with each test to see the water quality so god awful! I even double checked the shop test kits against the ones I'd picked up to replace my personal stash of tests, and checked them against her own test kits. Yes, I spent several moments glancing up at the tank, with its tremendously low water levels and walls that look like someone's painted them green, just to give myself a reality check. I had never seen a tank this bad, and I'd seen some pretty bad ones in my life.

I glance at the clock on my phone. This is an important thing to note, because this is where all of my plans to get in, get out, and get on with my life with some extra cash died. It was 7:00-7:15 pm ish.

See, I couldn't see what was in her tank. She told me she had fish, but she could not identify them. So, I assume the worst case scenario and plan that these fish are NOT hardy fish, but are indeed delicate fish. I know, I know, this was something that killed me. However, we all know that people who keep saltwater fish are often plagued by a wonderfully evil man named Murphy. I started slowly upping the water.

While that's going on, I take on the task of ripping apart the HOB and getting it running. When I was younger, I used to be convinced that HOBs were the worst things going. But, then, someone let me in on a few secrets to them. I now appreciate that, if you know what you're doing, throwing out a HOB should be a very rare thing. However, this does not stop me from being REALLY surprised when her filter starts up without an issue after being cleaned and replaced. Her water had obviously been really low for a long time, so I was really expecting the coils to be absolutely burnt out.

It takes me about an hour and a half to get to a point where I finally feel comfortable to water change. Up until this point, the woman has left me to my own devices. However, of course, when things get interesting, she pops up. The tank's filled, the filter's ready to go and rehung for start up after the final fill. She says she's curious to watch.

Is it just me, or does having an audience for a water change, as opposed to a beer-buddy like I had back at home suck?

Well, I start to water change, and, as I scrub down, I start to notice a few things. On the top of my mind, her FOWLR is missing an important part to the equation. That would be the WLR part of that statement. There is ZERO liverock in the tank. So, with a heavy heart, I realize that there's nothing really to get good biological filtration going. She's been relying entirely on a biowheel.

*sigh*

After that, I noticed that she's got the worst of the worst things to stick in a saltwater tank. Plastic decor in the shape of Mayan temples. NEON pink and pure white plastic plants that look like the 1980s sneezed them out. Two, tiny pre-drilled rainbow rock. Now, I was more than willing to forgive the Mayan temple, because it was pretty cool. And I was pretty willing to deal with the pink/white decor because my roommate had an unnatural obsession with pink. It was the combination of the two together, made worse my the rainbow rock that was making me twitch a little. To make it worse, my audience (-er client) wants me to perfectly, and individually clean every since piece of her decor and put it back in the EXACT same position. So, I oblidge and do so.

I finally found the fish. One fish. A pajama cardinal. I felt SOOOO bad for him. I take extra special care to mix everything really, really well before dosing, as well as getting a touch of New Life Spectrum from my car for the poor thing. He looked like he hadn't been fed in months! I've never seen a sadder looking pj cardinal! I left her with detailed, standing instructions for day to day and weekly maintenance for in between my visits to help take care of the poor little guy and get both the tank and the fish in better shape.

By the time I'm FINALLY ready to go, it's 9:45. 2 and a half hours.

I get home to find my manager's chilling at the house.

Turns out, his client wasn't that great either.... to the point where it made me fell BETTER about my client. Only his client had a 180 african cichlid tank with perhaps 200lbs or more of rock, and demanded that EVERY single rock get syphoned underneath and that my manager somehow manage to put EVERY single rock back in EXACTLY the same spot.

I felt a LOT better about my first client after hearing that.

This particular client insisted she only wanted maintenance once a month, so I got into the habit of calling two weeks later to schedule the next appointment. Three days before the maintenance, I would call to confirm (because we all know things come up). This goes on for two months before everything starts to derail.

I had her scheduled one early morning for a morning maintenance when she said that was the only time I could come up one week. I get to the gate to her complex and dial her number like usual, and NO ONE answers. The phone rings for a bloody fifteen minutes, but no one answers. I had to pull away from the gate to give her a call as other cars were honking to get in. It takes her a half an hour to decide to answer her phone after that. She informs me that the phone that her gate dials is broken and needs to be fixed. I'm told to follow another car in. Of course, when you WANT a car to be there, no one comes up to the gate for another fifteen minutes. It was awful, but I was willing to forgive her since she was my first client- despite ending up late for work since this wasted the hour window I had for working on her tank.

Right about here, I'd like to point something out about this gate nonsense. Her apartment complex's gate is insanely fast. It really and truly only lets one car through at a time, so I have to floor it to get my little Nissan through the gate without getting it hit by the gate. All this time I had been spending sitting out front, I had plenty of time to study both the stuff the back of my vanity mirror as well as the sign on the gate saying that drivers are responsible for any damage to their car or to the gate. I figured, however, this was a one time only deal, since she had a month between appointments.

Everything's a go for the next maintenance, and I confirmed with her for a rare second time the night before I was due out, so I packed my gear after work one night and get ready to go up, when I get a call from her. We had a 7:00 pm appointment. I get a call as I'm filling up the jugs that she can't meet with me that night. She needed to push it back to the next day. The next day, she calls while I'm on the way up to reschedule. She demands a maintenance the very next morning, citing that company would be arriving later in the day. I half-heartedly agree, but, since I have to open, the previous incident fresh in my mind.

Me: "Okay, so I'll see in the morning."

Lady: "Yep- see you then!"

Me: "Oh, wait! I almost forgot! Did you get your phone fixed?"

Lady: "No."

Me: "Uh.... is there another number or a gate code I can dial to get in?"

Lady: "No, just follow another car in like last time."

.... grr.

So, I go the next morning for my early morning maintenance, and there are no cars to be seen anywhere. I call her phone, repeatedly, but no one answers. After an hour of waiting, I decide that enough is enough and truck over to the local Waffle House to kill some time until she decides to call me. She never calls. I slowly savor three cups of coffee before giving up and heading to work. I call later that afternoon, thinking that maybe, just maybe, I could squeak her in after work before her company arrived. No answer. I call the next morning. No answer. Same thing the next day.

At this point, I'm starting to get concerned. Yeah, she's a terrible client, but it's been three days. I mean, yeah, I'm a Jersey Girl with a select list of a few people I wouldn't mind seeing dead, but this lady didn't yet warrant getting on that list.

She finally calls me back, apologizes profusely and asks me to reschedule. I say sure.

However, I have a small catch after the two previous incidents.

Me: "Is your phone fixed yet?"

Lady: "No..."

Me: "Do you have any intention of fixing it?"

Lady: "Not really. I don't use that phone anyway."

Me: "Have you had your complex switch your gate number to this number?"

Lady: "No."

Me: "Is there an access code?"

Lady: "No."

Me: "So, how am I supposed to get in?"

Lady: *happily* "Just follow another car in!"

Me: "No, that's not happening."

Lady: "But you've done it before."

Me: "Once, and I almost got hit by the gate! How about this? How about you meet me at the gate and let me in?"

Lady: *eeriely mockingly* "That's not happening."

Something snapped in me right about there. I couldn't control it. The Jersey came out again, and I was powerless to stop it! I understood the Mean Girls "word vomit" concept all too well.

Me: "So, if my car gets hit by your gate one day, who's going to pay for that? Who's responsible? I mean, your complex signs clearly say that I'll be responsible for damages to the car and to the gate, but are you going to help me pay for that should something happen."

Lady: "Well, no. That would be your fault."

Me: "Because you're too lazy to walk to your gate, fix your phone, or, oh heavens no, call your leasing office to change the number that your gate access is referencing? Oh nos! It's all too difficult! You could die of exhaustion and dehydration in the less than 1/4 mile from your apartment to gate! The people at the cell phone store could, oh no, speak harshly to you! Or, oh, horrors, you could break all of your fingers dialing your leasing office!"







.... I recognize now that I probably have some anger management issues that I'm just politely calling my "Jersey Moments."
 
Cross posted from "Dumb things you've overheard customers say at the LFS" because... well... it's SO dumb, spreading it around never gets old. Like telling fish stories about that minnow that, with each passing beer gets closer and closer to being whale sized, telling the "Shark Lady" story gets better and better. It's not nearly as good as a recent story I heard of "Verily Twas the Peanuts" or Lewis Black's "If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year at college" but it is still, by far, my favorite worst customer ever!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9730551#post9730551 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kathainbowen
Ok, because, now, I'm awake enough for the epic shark tale.

I had been at the LFS for close to a year and a half at this point, and the manager was practically grooming me as his protege. However, it was the week before my senior portfolio was due, so I had to take the week off from work. My senior portfolio was the END ALL BE ALL of my college career. However, unfortunately, my manager had a death in the family and had to go out of state.

Four weeks earlier:
A woman comes in with a severe interest in our coral catshark (who I affectionately called "Bruce." Not for finding Nemo, but for Bruce Lee). She was really interested, and Bruce was eating really well, feeding on a variety diet and even ambushing live prey. So, my manager answered her questions, confident that a shark, who had been with us for a month and was eating well, was in good health to go home. He tries to give her the business information for a man who custom fabricates large tanks and says we'll hold Bruce. That's not good enough. He tries to get her to purchase an AGA 210 or something with a similar footprint until she can get a large tank customed out (the 210 was the largest tank we could physically carry in house). That's not good enough.

In the end, she INSISTS on the AGA 75, because it's on sale. Fortunately, she gets a drilled one, grounding probe large sump, and one heck of a protein skimmer, TLC for Saltwater, as well as some good liverock. And, even more fortunately, she leaves Bruce with us. It could have been much worse. She could have gotten a HOB filter, no probe, no skimmer, and tried to leave with Bruce that day.

Two weeks later:
She comes back in and INSISTS on taking Bruce home despite our urging to ensure the tank is fully cycled. It's a sad day, because I know Bruce is probably going to live a very unhappy life.

The Saturday before my portfolio is due:
I get a call. It's the lady who took Bruce home, and, sure enough, he's dead in her tank. Died on Friday. She starts bantering on about how we should do something for her, this, that, and the other thing. I can hear her son crying in the background, so, I did the stupid thing. I called my manager. He admits that she bought a ton of stuff from us and feels bad that the shark died, even though we knew it would happen and even though it was WELL outside our 24 hr warranty. So, he says for her to bring in a water sample THAT NIGHT, and, if it checked out, things would be okay.

So, I get back on the phone with Shark lady and say: "Alright, I just got off the phone with my manager, and, although the shark is well outside of our warranty, we're going to try to help you out. What I need you to do is bring in both the shark and a sample of your water in a separate container for water testing tonight. If your water checks out, we'd be happy to replace the shark. If not, I'll help you straighten out whatever's going on in the tank."

She asks the strange question of, "What do I do if I can't make it our there tonight?"

To which, I reply, "You really should remove the corpse from the tank and freeze it to preserve the body. Place the body in either a tuperware container or a ziplock bag and seal it. Then, just freeze it. But, you really should come in right away so we can figure out what happened."

..... note to the peanut gallery: I know, I know. NTS. I knew that. And I knew what her water sample *should* have looked like. Just wait for it.

However, she doesn't show up that night.

Sunday:
I get a phone call on what had to be the busiest day at the shop in god knows how long. I'm trying to get out of there, because it's my last day at work before the long week haul of finalizing my portfolio.

SL: "Hey, I'm really sorry. I couldn't come in last night."

Me: "That's ok. Are you still going to come in tonight?"

SL: "Yup."

Me: "And you preserved the body of the animal, correct?"

SL: "I did."

Me: "Great, then, I'll see you before 6."

..... 6 rolls around, and the shark is still MIA. I go home, and find out that my manager has had a death in the family. He's leaving that night. We work out a call system between the two of us, but, to be honest with you, it consisted of "Don't call unless the store's unfire and the fish room's flooding and you need to know which animals to try to save first." I tell him what's going on with the shark lady, but his mind is elsewhere. It doesn't register. We come to the conclusion that we're trying to work with her, but she's obviously not trying to work with us, that she'll probably NEVER come in unless I just say we're going to refund it without a water test.

Monday:
Which is where all plans get blown out of the water. I'm in the computer lab at school, and I get a phone call. It's Kevin. Poor, sweet, gullible Kevin. He knows a good deal about cichlids and freshwater, but he only has a limited s/w experience. And, poor sweet, gullible Kevin is standing there with Shark Lady's Boyfriend (SLB). However, I was unaware of this. I was expecting a lady, since the Shark Lady, as I knew her, was unmarried with a young son. However, we soon find out who this random man who is shouting at Kevin in the first phone call, and I explain to Kevin to treat it like a warranty return. Test the water, and, if it checks out, full refund. If not, no cred.

The second phone call is where things start to get interesting....

Me: "This had better be really important considering how simple my instructions were, Kev."

Kevin: "*whispering* um.... this isn't looking so good."

Me: "*whispering* why are we whispering?"

Kevin: "*whispering* Because their water is really FUBAR, and he's still demanding a return."

Me: "..... please tell me you're not calling me on the floor. Please tell me you had the good sense to go somewhere where he can't hear you?"

Kevin: ".... I'm in the kennel."

Me: "Good enough. What's the readings?"

Kevin: "SG 1.017, pH 7.4, NO2 is off the charts. NO3 is off the charts."

Me: "HOLY ...... (I'm sure you can imagine the rest)."

Kevin: "That's really bad, isn't it?"

Me: "They couldn't keep a shark alive no matter how they treated it. No refund."

Kevin: "I tried to tell him that. He said he wanted me to check with you."

Me: "Inform him that, with water readings of such levels I could not expect anything but perhaps some clownfish or maybe damsels to live in that water. The salinity is way too low, as is the pH, and the rest of the readings are just toxic. They need to do some big, big water changes, raise the salinity, and just let the tank cycle for a while."

Kevin: "Yeah?"

Me: "Yes. Now, I have to get back to work."


...... ten minutes later my phone rings again....

Me: "Kevin.... if you're about to tell me about a shark.... I'm about to be really ****ed off."

Kevin: "Please stop yelling at me."

Me: "..... uh..... Kevin?"

Kevin: "Look, this guy is screaming at me, shouting that he needs a refund."

Me: "Uh.... no.... what they NEED to do is fix their water quality."

SLB: "*in background* Who are you talking to?"

Me: "Kevin, don't you dare put me on the phone with him."

SLB: "*in background* Who is that?"

Kevin: "It's Kat."

Me: "Kevin, if you put me on the phone with him so help me..."

SLB: "*getting closer* I want to talk to her."

Me: "Kevin! *putting on best charm* Good evening, sir."

SLB: "Hey, who is this? Are you the manager?"

Me: "No, unfortunately, our manager had to leave the state of Georgia for a family emergency. He left me in charge of the fish room until he returns later in the week."

SLB: "Yeah, well, this jerk won't refund me for YOUR SICK shark."

Me: "Unfortunately, the water conditions of your tank dictate that we can't refund your money for the shark. It was well outside of warranty, but the water just isn't hospitable for a shark."

SLB: "No, no, none of this crap again. I want to speak with the manager in person. Where is the manager?"

Me: "*sugary* He is in Ohio at the moment and outside cellular reach."

SLB: "Well, I want to talk with someone in person. You need to get down here right now."

Me: "Unfortunately, at the moment, I can't."

SLB: "Well, you need to."

Me: "No, what I need to do is finish sending my prints to the service bureau for my senior portfolio so I make sure I don't send a $90,000 and 3.5 year investment down the drain."

SLB: "..... when can you be here?"

Me: "I can be there perhaps between 8 and 9 o'clock tonight at the earliest. When would be...?"

SLB: "I'll be there *hangs up*."


.....

Needless to say, I'm fuming when I'm done sending my prints. I got done with the prints early, so I went down to the shop. After the SLB left, Kevin called back and apologized, asking what to do with the shark's corpse. I ask him to save it so I can do a brief exam. I wanted to see if he ever ate with them, and, if so, what he ate. When I get down to the shop, I pull the shark from the fridge and get my tools, but, as I turn it onto it's back, I don't need any. There are red and dark blotches all over its stomach. A symptom consistent of either too rough a substrate or too high of NO2 and/or NO3. I go, retest their water sample, and find the results to be the same as Kevin got. I checked the test kits against two or our systems and a second set of tests. Everything's reading just fine.

Then, begins the wait.

8:30 rolls around, and the shark people haven't shown up yet. However, my manager had called, so I gave him a heads up, without telling him my decision on the credit. The first words out of his mouth are something along the lines of how we could never give a refund with such rediculous test results. I concur, we have a mild banter and end the conversation quickly to free up the line.

.... 8:55 finally rolls around, and I get a phone call. It's Shark Lady, and she's being very pleasant and almost suck-up-y.

Me: "It's a wonderful day at [Store Name], this is Kat speaking, how may I help you?"

SL: "Hey, it's me with the shark."

Me: "Oh, hi.... I thought you guys were coming in? *teeth grinding at the anger of being torn away from my work for this BS*"

SL: "Yeah, well, I was just wondering how we were going to resolve the situation."

Me: "I've done a brief examine of the animal, as well as cross checked your water sample."

SL: "*hopefully* And?"

Me: "I'm very sorry, but I can't refund the animal."

SL: "Well, why the *profanity* not? *notice how the sugar from her voice is gone*"

Me: "Your NO2 and NO3 are completely off the charts."

SL: "Yeah, well, that's because I followed your stupid instructions."

Me: ".... huh?"

SL: "You told me to preserve the body!"

Me: "Uh... yeah.... by placing it in either a sealed bag or tuperware in your freezer or to bring it in that night."

SL: "Well, it was either the fridge or off the porch. If I put it on the porch, animals would eat it. And I'm not putting it in with the food I eat. Are you TRYING to get me sick?"

Me: "No, ma'am. So long as you are sealing the corpse up and freezing it, you won't have any issues. Afterall, an oven-stuffer chicken in your freezer is a carcass just like your shark. Or, really, if you freeze fish like salmon, tuna, mahi mahi, or anything like that it's just like freezing the shark."

SL: "No. YOUR shark is sick. You sold me a sick shark."

Me: "No, ma'am, I did not. Sharks do not eat if they are sick, and I fed him every other day at the least before you picked him up."

SL: "It was sick."

Me: "No, ma'am. Your water was of a highly toxic nature, with NO3 and NO2 in a severe range. The shark has burn-like markings on his body consistent with this."

SL: "That's from me leaving it in the tank."

Me: "What?!?"

SL: "I left it in the tank because I sure as s--- wasn't putting it in my freezer or on the back porch."

Me: "You don't need to use profanity, ma'am. We're adults."

SL: "I'M an adult."

Me: "*eyeroll* At any rate, I didn't base my judgement off of that anyway."

SL: "So, what? You just decided you didn't like me?"

Me: "No, I based my decision off of your specific gravity and your pH. Sharks are very sensistive animals and require constant vigilance of all your water perameters. I had a supsicion that the water sample may have been contaminated with the shark's body, which would have effected your NO2 and NO3. So, instead, I looked to your SG and pH. Your specific gravity is 1.017, well below the "safe" range of 1.020-1.025 for even common saltwater fish. And sharks generally prefer a higher specific gravity. Your specific gravity should be sitting right at 1.025 for a shark. But, regardless of what a shark prefers, your specific gravity and your pH are well below the levels that we can refund or give credit for any saltwater fish at."

SL: "It's body did that, When it decayed, it dropped the pH and the salinity. My brother's a fish breeder and he knows his stuff."

Me: "With all due respect to your brother, does he breed saltwater fish?"

SL: "No, African cichlids."

Me: "Alright, then. I would be willing to possibly believe that if there were a slight drop in either pH or specific gravity, but this is a pretty large drop. These things don't just suddenly happen on their own in a tank to create this large of a difference. Things have to be REALLY messed up in a tank for this to happen."

SL: "Then YOUR shark messed up MY tank."

Me: "No, your poor maintenance programme killed MY shark."

SL: "Well, YOUR shark had to be sick."

Me: "No, ma'am. My shark was healthy, eating, and behaving in a way that is classic for a coral cat shark to while he was in house. What happened when he got to your tank, I cannot say for certain, but it's fairly evident that someone- not necessarily you- did something VERY wrong which killed the shark over time."

SL: "Well, I want a refund."

Me: "I already told you, I won't refund the shark. I can't based off of our policy, which we were already breaking in this situation."

SL: "No, not for the shark."

Me: "Uh.... then, for what?"

SL: "For my tank. YOUR shark ruined my tank."

Me: "No, ma'am, you can fix this. You just need to do some big water changes, buffer the tank out, get the salinity right, and let it cycle. There's nothing wrong."

SL: "Yes there is. YOUR shark rotted in my tank and ruined it. It's all white and cloudy now."

Me: "That's just a bacteria bloom. If you let the tank cycle, and continue with doing water changes, it will go away."

SL: "No, your shark ruined my live sand, my live rock, my filter, and the tank. I want a refund."

Me: "I'm sorry, but we can't take anything back that's not in a re-sellable condition."

SL: "No, I'm not giving it back. You're just going to pay for what you ruined."

Me: "Uh.... the tank is made of a relatively innert material. The glass and silicon are fine."

SL: "Yes, but your shark ruined my liverock and livesand with its bad bacteria."

Me: "I can't refund live sand or liverock. If anything, I might be able to do credit for liverock, but it wouldn't be as much as you paid for it."

SL: "No, you're going to refund it, or I'm calling my lawyer. You've been very rude and dishonest to me."

Me: "Why? What have I said that's dishonest?"

SL: "You told me to leave the shark in the tank."

Me: "No. I told you to preserve the shark in your freezer if you had to, but to bring it in as soon as possible."

SL: "You're trying to kill me."

Me: "Look, I'm TRYING to get off the phone with you because I'm very done with this conversation. I cannot refund the shark because your water quality is god awful. I WILL NOT refund your equipment and live media because I can't. And, even if I could, I wouldn't refund your money without having the product in return. I've been honest and open. I'm here, at the shop, waiting for you to show up because your boyfriend told me to be here. I'm risking my graduation for you, and you don't have the decency to show up. So, unless you have a new argument, I am ending this conversation now."

SL: "I want to speak with your manager."

Me: "To be honest with you, I'll do one better. My name is [full, legal name], my manager is [Manager's Name]. We're [Store Name] located at [address], and this is our corporate number [phone number]. You can feel free to file a complaint, but I do not think anything will come of it in this situation."

SL: "No, I want to speak with your manager."

Me: "I already told you that he's in Ohio."

SL: "Well, I want to speak with him. I want the refund I deserve."

Me: "Look, I'm going to be extremely honest and candid with you, ma'am. [Manager]'s not the nice guy. He's the guy I send people to when I don't want to give them a refund, because he's far less apt to give a refund than I am. In fact, people come to me when they want refunds, because they know I want to work things out. I'm a virgo. I'm a people-pleaser. Him, he's a take-no-prisoners. If you stood any chance of getting a refund, it would be with me."

SL: "So, give me one."

Me: "I've told you a million times no. But, I'm trying to warn you. He's most likely NOT going to refund you a penny for any of this unless you come up with a better argument."

SL: "I want to speak with him."

Me: "Well, he's currently at a wake and funeral. He's coming home on Wednesday night, so you're going to have to wait until Thursday at the earliest."

SL: "I want to speak with him right now."

Me: "Well, I want a pony, but it's just not going to happen."

SL: "I'm filing a complaint against you."

Me: "Go right ahead, ma'am. And be sure to tell them about how I ruined your tank and tried to kill you. Have a good night."

*click*




.... she actually showed up to the shop in person on Thursday. My manager just looked at her and didn't let her open her mouth before he told her, "No." Any time she tried to raise an argument, he just said, "No." I ended up getting a corporate complaint against me, but, when the details were heard, including the accusation of attempted murder, it was laughed off by pretty much everyone, including corporate.
 
I'm beginning to think you may be my clone.
LOL!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10890583#post10890583 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kathainbowen
Aw! Thank-you!!!

:love2:

I'm actually starting to run out of my more classic tales between this and the previous "Overheard in the LFS" stories, like my all time favorite, the "shark lady." Crazy customers and people in general just seem to be attracted to me like I've got a big lightning-rod-for-stupidity sticking out the back of my shirt.



*thinking cap*

Ah! I've got a good one for you. The 20G Lady.

So, I'd been working in the LFS for a while and getting pretty settled into my job. My manager had way too many maintenance accounts and was trying to get me into taking on some of his simpler and smaller clients. I finally agreed for this one woman who was a regular shopper and just seemed absolutely desperate to get her tank cleaned of cyano. The poor lady had been complaining for weeks upon weeks about a green film all over her tank and was thinking about throwing in the towel. She asked if I'd do maintenance for her, and I agreed since I felt really bad for her. I mean, she'd always been a sweet lady... in the store.

This, however, is where things all changed.

I knew her tank from description, a fairly basic 20G FOWLR setup. She said the water was a "bit low." So, at the end of work, I packed the trunk of my tiny car with 21 gallons of saltwater, 7 gallons of freshwater, and the maintenance gear. I had to make a guess, since she was so pressed for emergency maitenance that I didn't have the opportunity to do an estimate for her tank. I overpacked, figuring that my tank was almost due for a water change and my to fill up my top-off bin. I also figured that a 20G tank would only take me maybe an hour at the most to really get up to her house, do my job, and get home, with plenty of time to make dinner and putz my way through water changing my own tank.

I get there, and it IMMEDIATELY becomes quite clear that this is not the case.

Her 20G tank is missing about, oh, six to seven inches of water.

Yes. Six to seven inches. As in almost a half a foot. As in about HALF the content of the tank. The entire tank was covered in a think, green slime, classic cyano but to a level I'd NEVER seen. What little water was in the tank, I couldn't see with all the cyano everywhere! When I saw her tank, I almost dropped one of my 7 gallon jugs right on her yappy little min pin dog (who was a pain of a dog, but was an adorable pain of a dog- I would have felt really bad dropping a full jug on her, especially since the dog already had a cast). It was so low, it didn't even touch the bottom of the HOB filter, which was still plugged in like it was going to run.

When asked about it, the woman told me the same line she used in the shop. "It's just a bit low!"

.... *sigh* I crack out my tests. The specific gravity is through the roof. The pH is through the floor. The nitrites and nitrates are off the charts. I kept finding myself startled with each test to see the water quality so god awful! I even double checked the shop test kits against the ones I'd picked up to replace my personal stash of tests, and checked them against her own test kits. Yes, I spent several moments glancing up at the tank, with its tremendously low water levels and walls that look like someone's painted them green, just to give myself a reality check. I had never seen a tank this bad, and I'd seen some pretty bad ones in my life.

I glance at the clock on my phone. This is an important thing to note, because this is where all of my plans to get in, get out, and get on with my life with some extra cash died. It was 7:00-7:15 pm ish.

See, I couldn't see what was in her tank. She told me she had fish, but she could not identify them. So, I assume the worst case scenario and plan that these fish are NOT hardy fish, but are indeed delicate fish. I know, I know, this was something that killed me. However, we all know that people who keep saltwater fish are often plagued by a wonderfully evil man named Murphy. I started slowly upping the water.

While that's going on, I take on the task of ripping apart the HOB and getting it running. When I was younger, I used to be convinced that HOBs were the worst things going. But, then, someone let me in on a few secrets to them. I now appreciate that, if you know what you're doing, throwing out a HOB should be a very rare thing. However, this does not stop me from being REALLY surprised when her filter starts up without an issue after being cleaned and replaced. Her water had obviously been really low for a long time, so I was really expecting the coils to be absolutely burnt out.

It takes me about an hour and a half to get to a point where I finally feel comfortable to water change. Up until this point, the woman has left me to my own devices. However, of course, when things get interesting, she pops up. The tank's filled, the filter's ready to go and rehung for start up after the final fill. She says she's curious to watch.

Is it just me, or does having an audience for a water change, as opposed to a beer-buddy like I had back at home suck?

Well, I start to water change, and, as I scrub down, I start to notice a few things. On the top of my mind, her FOWLR is missing an important part to the equation. That would be the WLR part of that statement. There is ZERO liverock in the tank. So, with a heavy heart, I realize that there's nothing really to get good biological filtration going. She's been relying entirely on a biowheel.

*sigh*

After that, I noticed that she's got the worst of the worst things to stick in a saltwater tank. Plastic decor in the shape of Mayan temples. NEON pink and pure white plastic plants that look like the 1980s sneezed them out. Two, tiny pre-drilled rainbow rock. Now, I was more than willing to forgive the Mayan temple, because it was pretty cool. And I was pretty willing to deal with the pink/white decor because my roommate had an unnatural obsession with pink. It was the combination of the two together, made worse my the rainbow rock that was making me twitch a little. To make it worse, my audience (-er client) wants me to perfectly, and individually clean every since piece of her decor and put it back in the EXACT same position. So, I oblidge and do so.

I finally found the fish. One fish. A pajama cardinal. I felt SOOOO bad for him. I take extra special care to mix everything really, really well before dosing, as well as getting a touch of New Life Spectrum from my car for the poor thing. He looked like he hadn't been fed in months! I've never seen a sadder looking pj cardinal! I left her with detailed, standing instructions for day to day and weekly maintenance for in between my visits to help take care of the poor little guy and get both the tank and the fish in better shape.

By the time I'm FINALLY ready to go, it's 9:45. 2 and a half hours.

I get home to find my manager's chilling at the house.

Turns out, his client wasn't that great either.... to the point where it made me fell BETTER about my client. Only his client had a 180 african cichlid tank with perhaps 200lbs or more of rock, and demanded that EVERY single rock get syphoned underneath and that my manager somehow manage to put EVERY single rock back in EXACTLY the same spot.

I felt a LOT better about my first client after hearing that.

This particular client insisted she only wanted maintenance once a month, so I got into the habit of calling two weeks later to schedule the next appointment. Three days before the maintenance, I would call to confirm (because we all know things come up). This goes on for two months before everything starts to derail.

I had her scheduled one early morning for a morning maintenance when she said that was the only time I could come up one week. I get to the gate to her complex and dial her number like usual, and NO ONE answers. The phone rings for a bloody fifteen minutes, but no one answers. I had to pull away from the gate to give her a call as other cars were honking to get in. It takes her a half an hour to decide to answer her phone after that. She informs me that the phone that her gate dials is broken and needs to be fixed. I'm told to follow another car in. Of course, when you WANT a car to be there, no one comes up to the gate for another fifteen minutes. It was awful, but I was willing to forgive her since she was my first client- despite ending up late for work since this wasted the hour window I had for working on her tank.

Right about here, I'd like to point something out about this gate nonsense. Her apartment complex's gate is insanely fast. It really and truly only lets one car through at a time, so I have to floor it to get my little Nissan through the gate without getting it hit by the gate. All this time I had been spending sitting out front, I had plenty of time to study both the stuff the back of my vanity mirror as well as the sign on the gate saying that drivers are responsible for any damage to their car or to the gate. I figured, however, this was a one time only deal, since she had a month between appointments.

Everything's a go for the next maintenance, and I confirmed with her for a rare second time the night before I was due out, so I packed my gear after work one night and get ready to go up, when I get a call from her. We had a 7:00 pm appointment. I get a call as I'm filling up the jugs that she can't meet with me that night. She needed to push it back to the next day. The next day, she calls while I'm on the way up to reschedule. She demands a maintenance the very next morning, citing that company would be arriving later in the day. I half-heartedly agree, but, since I have to open, the previous incident fresh in my mind.

Me: "Okay, so I'll see in the morning."

Lady: "Yep- see you then!"

Me: "Oh, wait! I almost forgot! Did you get your phone fixed?"

Lady: "No."

Me: "Uh.... is there another number or a gate code I can dial to get in?"

Lady: "No, just follow another car in like last time."

.... grr.

So, I go the next morning for my early morning maintenance, and there are no cars to be seen anywhere. I call her phone, repeatedly, but no one answers. After an hour of waiting, I decide that enough is enough and truck over to the local Waffle House to kill some time until she decides to call me. She never calls. I slowly savor three cups of coffee before giving up and heading to work. I call later that afternoon, thinking that maybe, just maybe, I could squeak her in after work before her company arrived. No answer. I call the next morning. No answer. Same thing the next day.

At this point, I'm starting to get concerned. Yeah, she's a terrible client, but it's been three days. I mean, yeah, I'm a Jersey Girl with a select list of a few people I wouldn't mind seeing dead, but this lady didn't yet warrant getting on that list.

She finally calls me back, apologizes profusely and asks me to reschedule. I say sure.

However, I have a small catch after the two previous incidents.

Me: "Is your phone fixed yet?"

Lady: "No..."

Me: "Do you have any intention of fixing it?"

Lady: "Not really. I don't use that phone anyway."

Me: "Have you had your complex switch your gate number to this number?"

Lady: "No."

Me: "Is there an access code?"

Lady: "No."

Me: "So, how am I supposed to get in?"

Lady: *happily* "Just follow another car in!"

Me: "No, that's not happening."

Lady: "But you've done it before."

Me: "Once, and I almost got hit by the gate! How about this? How about you meet me at the gate and let me in?"

Lady: *eeriely mockingly* "That's not happening."

Something snapped in me right about there. I couldn't control it. The Jersey came out again, and I was powerless to stop it! I understood the Mean Girls "word vomit" concept all too well.

Me: "So, if my car gets hit by your gate one day, who's going to pay for that? Who's responsible? I mean, your complex signs clearly say that I'll be responsible for damages to the car and to the gate, but are you going to help me pay for that should something happen."

Lady: "Well, no. That would be your fault."

Me: "Because you're too lazy to walk to your gate, fix your phone, or, oh heavens no, call your leasing office to change the number that your gate access is referencing? Oh nos! It's all too difficult! You could die of exhaustion and dehydration in the less than 1/4 mile from your apartment to gate! The people at the cell phone store could, oh no, speak harshly to you! Or, oh, horrors, you could break all of your fingers dialing your leasing office!"







.... I recognize now that I probably have some anger management issues that I'm just politely calling my "Jersey Moments."
 
Two great stories. Thanks for adding them.

Now go buy a need keyboard. I'm positive the last one is about done after that. :lol:
 
Me: "Well, I want a pony, but it's just not going to happen."



AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

I'm totally gonna use that one
 
My wife and I were in Lawrence, KS over the weekend and went to my favorite pet store of all time, Petworld. Keep in mind, I'm VERY new to marine tanks, and I don't really know that much.

An older couple, I'd say in their fifties, were looking at saltwater fish. Husband picks out a couple and asks me (I don't work there) if I could net them for me. I told him, and he's like, OK.

A few minutes later an employee comes over and nets the fish. I'm not sure which ones they were, but they were pricey, because the wife and husband started having a huge argument about paying rent the next month. I'm telling you, they got into it big time. By the time they were done, the employee had dumped the fish back in the tank and had to recapture them.

Funny how some people will sacrifice everything for their fish!
 
Littlefish72 - I probably worked at the same LFS as you did (if it was in Raleigh, NC). We received shipments on Thursdays as well. Though I would imagine that all the stores in the area would get livestock at the same time.
At one point, in the middle of winter, a shipment came in after having been delayed a day at RDU. Unfortunately, most of the livestock suffered. The bags were literally full of a salt water slush.
I had a customer pick up a bag with a clownfish that did not make it and say "is this the way this suppose to look". The sad thing is he was serious.
Unbelieveable...

-Brent
 
heres a few.....

do you sell "live" dogs? i said no just dead ones.....
where are your scum suckers? ohhh you mean plecostumus...
do you have the fish where the heads be blowed up? ohhh
you mean orandas..
do you have any banakankie fish? ohhh you mean buttikoferi...
where are your jack daniel fish? ohh you mean jack dempseys?
is that a water snake? ummm no thats an eel....

everyday i get something new....
 
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