B&W breeding with Percula question

[Almenmarine]

I have a Percula right now, i just got him yesterday, but i also want to get a B&W Ocellaris. Do they make "Onyx" Babies? If not, what do the babies look like and what are they called?

Thanks

Christian

 

[wanabebell]

no, onyx are true A. Percula..... you will end up getting something like Sanjay's photon clowns although photons are an Onyx percula with black Ocellaris

 

[camaroracer214]

yeah, onyx clowns are amphiprion percula with a lot more black on them. the black and white clowns are a. ocellaris that became available/popular through ora. sanjay was able to breed his onyx percula and b&w ocellaris and the offspring look decent. they don't have any crazy coloration or patterns, but they are different.

if the two clowns you have were to breed and you successfully raise the offspring, you'll get something like this:

taken from: http://blog.aquanerd.com/2009/08/dr-sanjays-black-photon-clowns.html

 

[Almenmarine]

I see. Are the odds significantly lower than two regular A Perc's breeding? Or are there just not so many because alot of people want matching clowns?

Thanks

Christian

 

[wanabebell]

no I think you would have the same luck breeding

 

[Almenmarine]

Thanks Wanabe, that makes it very exciting!

 

[elegance coral]

I don't think you will have a problem getting them to breed, but I don't' think the offspring would look anything like the black photon posted above. Both parents to that fish were very melanistic. You will have one melanistic and one orange parent. This should produce offspring with a very different color.

 

[Almenmarine]

Good! You guys are giving me such great encouragement! Would anyone recommend a Onyx and B&W? It would have more Black i assume. I believe it would depend on who goes female though. A guy on my club forum has some Onyx for sale 40 dollars each. It really is a hard call. They should be ready in a few weeks.

Opinions?


Thanks again

christian

 

[elegance coral]

If you got an onyx and black ocellaris, then the offspring may look like the pic above. That is what it's parents were.

Why does it matter who turns female? I know there are rumors of the male being the one that passes on its markings, but I don't buy it at all. To the best of my knowledge, there is no proof to back this up. If you have brown eyes and your wife has blue eyes, what color eyes will your children have?

 

[Almenmarine]

50/50. Good point. Yes, that's what i read about the markings. I wouldn't really buy it either but i wasn't sure. I did feel sceptical when i read that.

I'll consider the Onyx for sure, especially if it makes it's color more interesting, but who knows, it is a gamble!

 

[a-T-m]

that is one wild looking clownfish posted up there.

 

[bues0022]

Why does it matter who turns female? I know there are rumors of the male being the one that passes on its markings, but I don't buy it at all. To the best of my knowledge, there is no proof to back this up. If you have brown eyes and your wife has blue eyes, what color eyes will your children have?

I'm not sure you can necessarily state this for certain. The fact that many of the top breeders have observed through countless generations of fish that the color seems to trend towards the males is enough for me to believe a slight correlation. While eye color deals more with dominant and recessive genes. There definitely are sex-linked genes: calico cats are only female, white eyes in Drosophila flies, Colorblindness in humans is more common in males, etc.

I'm not saying that coloration is definitely linked to males, but like I said, some of the top breeders see a slight correlation, so you might as well play the odds, right?