B&W with orange face

JTL

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I have heard conflicting stories about whether a black and white ocellaris will lose its orange face. A friend of mine who breeds clowns says it is unlikely. He has had one pair for over a year and still orange on the faces. Any one have a comment. The pair I am looking at still has an orange tint to the body on one of the fish.

The ones I am looking are here:
www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1791642
 
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I have a pair and the female has lost its orange face and the male still has a small amount of orange left, but its not far behind the female.
 
I have a pair and the female has lost its orange face and the male still has a small amount of orange left, but its not far behind the female.

How old are they? Check out the link I just put in the original post.
 
The bottom fish in your link has a horrible under bite. If that kind of thing doesn't bother you, and you don't plan on breeding them, the price is right.
 
The bottom fish in your link has a horrible under bite. If that kind of thing doesn't bother you, and you don't plan on breeding them, the price is right.

Thanks for pointing that out. I contacted the seller and asked him if that is the case or is it just a bad picture. Does look to be the case though.
 
I'm the seller in that thread. I used a picture off the internet to show what the fish look like. The pictured fish are not the actual fish just what the ones I have look like. My camera sucks and any pics of the actual fish just turn out to be a blur. The fish I have are perfect and are colored just like the ones in the pics with no over bite.

Fish are individuals just like people. They sometimes don't turn out perfect. That could be the case with your friends clowns? All black and white ocellaris start out with a little orange all over including the face. Most will lose the orange and turn completely black and white with maturity in around a year. The parents of these fish were all black and white no orange left on them.
 
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If I had known that those were not your fish it would have eliminated a lot of confusion.
 
These are the actual fish but these are the best pics I could get my camera to take. Clowns are about 4 months old.
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Like I said fish are individuals just like people. They sometimes don't turn out perfect. If you want a fail safe way of getting a pair that are completely black and white buy a mature set. But your going to have to spend the big bucks for them. They are not cheap. I'm selling a pair of juvs for 30 bucks. The parents were black and white with no orange. So with the juvs you take a chance. I think its a good chance they will end up just like the parents.
 
My B&W clowns are 4 months old and still have the orange on their face, i really want them to turn fully black and white but i do like the orange faces.
 
The bottom fish in your link has a horrible under bite. If that kind of thing doesn't bother you, and you don't plan on breeding them, the price is right.
Actually, from what I understand, that underbite can be the result of water quality issues when the fish developing. I can't remember where I read that, and maybe someone more knowledgeable can refute it, but it isn't necessarily a genetic trait that could be passed down to offspring.
 
Jason,
How old are your fish and do all of the sets seem to be developing in a similar fashion. I just read a very long thread that chronicled a guy raising blacks and it looked like his babies still had orange faces at almost 6 months.
John
 
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