Banded and Multi-band Pipefish: Early experiences

I got 4x64watt T5's 2 12k and two actinic. I might drop one of the actinics for a pink or something to change up the color.
As far as deworming I am not sure. I will have to check with my SH companions as I assume it would be done the same way with them as pipes. Perhaps saxman could enlighten us.
 
Tried some prawn roe again this evening with my long skinny friends. D. d. not too interested. D. p. found a glob that sunk to the bottom and really got down to business. Stayed in that area and took bites of the glob for a minute or two. Probably 8-10 bites!!! Cool.

Both species definately attracted to larger food size. I think the "glob" made it appealing enough to try and then.....mmmm....delicious.

Put in some mysis about 1/2 later. D. d. took 3 or 4 whole shrimp from the water column. Again, absolutely not interested in the food after it hits the substrate.

D. p. seemed interested in the mysis once it hit the sand but I did not see it strike. Maybe too full of roe.

Both pipes eating. Both have 3-4 spots of ich. Mostly on their dorsal fins. I am considering hypo-ing the whole tank. Thoughts? Thanks.
 
Fed three times today as it's a day off. Both pipes ate mysis at all three feedings. About 4 each. Last feeding D. d. had a very strong feeding response as soon as the food hit the water. Struck at and ate 4-5 mysis in rapid succession. Lost interest once food hit the sand.

D. p. was more methodical. Eating about 1 shrimp per minute over 4 minutes. Has a very cool way of hovering over the mysis and circling it and then rolling slightly and.....snap!

No visible cysts on either today though dorsal fin of D. p. is a little cloudy where there were three cysts yesterday. Hopefully can pull them out of this without medication at this point.

Still interested if anyone has experience with hyposalinity and flagfin pipes.

Pipes appear robust and healthy otherwise.

D. p. sometimes "rests" on a particular rock, head down at about 20 degrees off of vertical. D. d. usually remains behind the rockwork freeswimming under overhangs. Both respond to me and come out and swim when I approach the tank! They both know I'm food! Very excited about the feeding progress here. :spin1:Things are going well for now.

Appreciate hearing other feeding experiences people have had with D. d. and D. p.

Best, small the alien :bounce2:
 
Fed prawn roe yesterday evening. Both pipes got excited but I saw no eating whatsoever.

Dropped in some mysis about 1/2 hour later. Big feeding response. D. d. really sprang into action. Snap, snap, snap.

For the first time I've seen, D. p. took a piece out of the water column and D. d. took a piece off the substrate. D. d. still mainly eats from the water column with D. p. mostly taking food from the sand. But this was an exception that signaled to me that their feeding response is getting stronger by the day.

No visible ich spots on either pipe. Fins largely clear of cloudiness.

Still hoping to hear someone's experience with treating pipes for ich with hyposalinity.

Thanks. Peace.
 
From what I was told, pipes handle hypo like other fish, but I have limited experience. My bluestripe that I had for six or more months died in hypo, but I am 99.9% sure that was because I waited way too long to hypo her -- long after I had removed the other tankmates for treatment.
 
Thanks, Elysia.

On another note, does your RC handle have anything to do with the Elysian Mysteries? Just wondering. Peace.
 
Both D. spp. showed fantastic feeding response this morning, each taking 5-6 pieces of mysis. Maybe more. Both took some from the water column. D. d. more vigorously. D. p. continued to forage after the mysis hit the sand. D. d. did not. Have not once seen D. d. take a piece of food off the substrate.
 
white patch

white patch

Greetings all. D. p. had a small (1/8") whitish patch just to the rear of the dorsal fin on one side that remained unchanged since I purchased the fish. It is not raised, it is not irritated looking, it is not fuzzy, it is not sloughing anything. It just looks faded.

:hmm2: This morning I think I noticed the white area looked SLIGHTLY larger. And I think I see a very small (1/16th of an inch) area of whitishness near the caudal peduncle. Though pipefish are kind of ALL caudal peduncle now aren't they? I hope I'm using that term correctly or that was not very funny. That might not have been very funny anyway.

I know I should have a pic but it's kinda subtle. I'll try. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
photos

photos

here's the white patch by the dorsal fin. It's right in the middle of the shot.

dpwhitepatch1crop.jpg


Here's the new area by the tail. I think it's new. I keep a pretty close eye and I hadn't noticed it until today.

dpwhitepatchcaudal.jpg
 
Sometimes it is a matter of luck and hard work from the owner presenting tempting different goodies:p.These pipes,as seahorses are sometimes individualistic in their food acceptance,i.e.one could take frozen mysis while other doesn´t.
SW Moina are always taken,IME.And adult bs almost always.:cool:
 
I would really start giving him formalin dips. I saw that on a few banded pipes at the shop last month. Within a few days it evolved into something flesh eating.
 
Thanks for your thoughts, all. I appreciate it. D. p. went on the 1 1/2 day hunger strike. Then ate a few mysis. Has not eaten for over 12 hours (two feeding attempts.) Seems a little listless. White areas stable.

D. d. is eating well. Couple of ich spots. I'm going to begin hyposalinity shortly.

Thanks.
 
D. p. is dead.:(

The white patch by the tail went into flesh eating mode. Entire circumference of the body over about 1 cm of length just went totally white. Looked like the skin was gone.

Put the fish in a hospital tank and administered erythromycin. The fish looked more and more listless and out of it yesterday throughout the day. Still eating though even though it could hardly swim. By yesterday, the tail was pretty much gone too.

By last night it was just hanging by the surface, very listless.

This morning it was stuck hanging upside down to the filter intake.

I felt very bad for the fish. To be plucked from the ocean, moved through 3 or 4 tanks over a month period through transport, sales and into my tank and then to die of a horrible disease like this. It really made me question keeping wild caught fish. I'm still trying to decide if I only want to keep captive bred animals moving forward. Of course, they can't be captive bred unless someone catches some wild ones, likely many, and works with them over a period of time. I don't know. It just is such a shame. And it was eating so well right up to the end.

D. d. is eating vigorously. Couple ich spots. Doing daily formalin dips. Will hypo the whole tank soon.

Bummer. I knew this thread might end in disaster but I did not think it would take this form.

Thanks, small the alien
 
that sux...sorry to hear that. you were doing so well...

altho flagfins can normally handle reef temps, what temp are you running in their setup? like SH, if you keep it a bit cooler, you'll have less trouble with bacterial infections. i ran mine at 76*F.

when the fish presented, bumping the temp way down to like 68*F would have retarded the infection, altho IME, by the time most syngnathids present, it's usually too late to pull them back.
 
Thanks, Greg. I thought that might be the case regarding temp. I kept that tank at 76.

It all happened so fast and I frankly lacked the experience to recognize and deal with the problem in a timely way. But I did my best.

Bummer.
 
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