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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8428372#post8428372 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TripleP
Bill like some type of God.

ya in his own way he is. he is a master at building big stuff for his reef tank. he abilities have almost no limits.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8424690#post8424690 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by spazz
ya he was rinsing the media. but it takes alot morethan that to keep it from ending up in the aquarium. i feel dumping the out going water from the rowa reacotr into the skimmer will get rid of any chances of this stuff entering the water in the system. i have see him fill the reacotr up. he rinses the media for a long time. its just never enough. filter pads and thing like that dont help to contain the superfine granuals. they pass right through. that stuff is super light in salt water. it almost floats. that is whay its best to run it into the skimmer first. it will pull out any of the fines that make it through the filter pads. he also intorducedthe media slowly to the system, but that didnt help. his tank has since recovered from the rowaphos and is looking mighty good.

Last word on this Scott. You can always have the output of the rowa reactor dump into a small micron filter sock. Aquatic Ecosystem carries them. That is what I do. I used to rinse the media a ton of times and it was extremely time consuming not to mention I think it uses up the emdia much faster too. I now have the reactors (carbon and PO4 remover) dump right into the 25 micron filter sock that screent he water coming from my overflows into the sump. Works extremey well. You can even see the filter sock getting red or black inside but nothing outside. Something else to try rather than playing with a ton more plumbing and such. One can over complicate systems pretty easily.:D
 
spazz, one thing I noticed about tanks over 1000g is that it becomes more work maintaing the tank and will take away from the fun unless you hire someone to assist. Does Bill do all of the work and is his wife supportive?
 
I would think that it would be pretty difficult to undertake a project of this size without the 'thumbs up' of his wife lol. This is a pretty hard one to hide. I would hope that his wife is into the hobby as well, and doesn't mind him doing this. I know some of our wives take great offense to us spending a lot of time on the tanks :rolleyes:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8432359#post8432359 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by invincible569
spazz, one thing I noticed about tanks over 1000g is that it becomes more work maintaing the tank and will take away from the fun unless you hire someone to assist. Does Bill do all of the work and is his wife supportive?


One of the things that I know with Energy's tank is that it is not as time consuming as one would think. You have to engineer the system keeping in mind that you do not want to be working on the system all of the time. So if someone was setting up a larger system they really need to think ahead. Another thing is that you have to be more than the average hobbiest to be able to handle a system over 1000g. If you just have a Joe Shmoe that does not have the ability or the knowledge of how a system this large needs to operate they are in for a world of hurt. When a aquarium system as large as this one is, the normal procedures of the average home reef aquarium goes out the window. They operate on a differant set of rules than say a 200g aquarium does. You have to keep in mind that alot of the routines of cleaning and such that we do on a 200g system is just not feasable with a setup that is over 15,000g. You cant do a 30% water change. It is just not possible. Bill has taken carefull considerations of this and is thinking he way through this alot more than what has been translated through this thread. I am good friends with Spazz, I actually work with him. Spazz and Bill and a few others out there play in differant relm when it comes to setups this large. One of the unique things about this setup is going to be how effieciant it is going to be to operate. With the Titamium heat exchanger, to the homemade top of the line skimmers. I belive that Bill will not forget anything when it comes to this setup and I anxiously awat new pictures!
 
yeah, well--- nanos are a different realm too you know...so... ( I can't say it with a straight face). more pictures, please.
 
i don't know if this has been writen about because i did'nt read all of the posts . Do you have someway of dealing with all of the humidity that this monster is going to develop?
 
The tank, tank room, any structure having anything to do with the tank will be entirely sealed from the rest of the house. I do not know for sure the details of the venting, etc. but I know that there will be some, and it will not effect the house what-so-ever.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8432359#post8432359 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by invincible569
spazz, one thing I noticed about tanks over 1000g is that it becomes more work maintaing the tank and will take away from the fun unless you hire someone to assist. Does Bill do all of the work and is his wife supportive?
both bill and his girlfriend love reef tanks. she may not understand the equiptment side of the tnak but she is inlove with the fish and corals. she is very supprotive of bills tanks. she has grown especialy fond of fred the tang. he is so cool.
 
bill has purchased special air exchangers to handle the humidity issues. the entire room will be sealed with epozy paint to keep the walls from abosrbing moisture.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8432720#post8432720 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by spazz
bill has purchased special air exchangers to handle the humidity issues. the entire room will be sealed with epozy paint to keep the walls from abosrbing moisture.


You the man Spazz!!!
 
this may have been mentioned, is there going to be some type of water change on this system, or is nutrients in this large of system not always a problem.
 
Quick comment on that schuran style Ca reactor on pg 8. He may want to add a small cap of some sort to the top to pour in more media without having to unbolt the main flange. He will burn that media really fast in a 50kgal system full of coral. Probably inside of a week or two. I am making only slightly smaller ones for my greenhouse and they will only be used on 3kgal systems (but with a lot more coral surface area). My guess is he will end up needing several of that size reactor to keep up with demand once the tank fills out. To give you an idea, I burn about 1.25lb/100gal of schuran media in 2 weeks. That's 625lb in 2 weeks at 50kgal scale. And you have to keep those things full to keep them running efficiently; a half-full reactor just dumps CO2 to effluent water.
 
Very interesting stuff about the RowaPhos. I have been using it since Day 1 and have been happy with it, but I have has a few strange STNs. The one time I stopped the RowaPhos had had an imploson in my fuge and had to re-start it.

I keep a liter of RowaPhos (or a knock off) on the outflow of my multi-media reactor but have it going directly to the sump. I built PVC baskets and have floss on both sides of the media, but perhaps I should plumb it to the skimmer. I had originally planned this but shied away when I got negative feedback about Ca rich water flowing through my skimmer. You can see pictures of it on my equipment page: http://home.wavecable.com/~jrowe/equipment.htm
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8433026#post8433026 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by onehundred20
this may have been mentioned, is there going to be some type of water change on this system, or is nutrients in this large of system not always a problem.

Sure, nutrients are still a problem, only with that much volume problems take that much longer to develop into something noticable... which can be deadly because its not like a regular tank where you can just do a large water change or vac all the gravel... etc. You have more of a chemical sink, so it takes longer for problems to develop, but that doesnt mean you should be any less attentive, because when those problems develop in larger tanks, they are that much bigger f a problem and much harder to correct. Those 200g water changes on a 1500g system just dont have the same impact as on a 200g...lol.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8432248#post8432248 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dgasmd
Last word on this Scott. You can always have the output of the rowa reactor dump into a small micron filter sock.

That is the first thing in this thread that I have learned that I can actually apply on my system, thanks dgasmd!

Now carry on with supercalifragilisticreefealapotius set up...........
 
Originally posted by dgasmd
Last word on this Scott. You can always have the output of the rowa reactor dump into a small micron filter sock.

you da MAN dgasmd
 
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