Battery

[CraigsReef]

Roger,

Im not not if this was ever mentioned before here or not or even discussed because i cant get search to work.


Just a thought and Im willing to bet a large sum of money that if tunze came out with a battery backup, Tunze would have a very hard time keeping on the shelves anywhere.

Thanks,
Craig-

p.s. if they are coming out please pm so i can give you my cc numbers now

 

[rvitko]

The problem is we don't make batteries so all we can do is mark up even further a back up system you can buy at any electronics store. There is nothing special required, any computer back up can run an Electronic version of the pump long term without any issues.

 

[verper]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8870079#post8870079 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rvitko
There is nothing special required, any computer back up can run an Electronic version of the pump long term without any issues.

How? The new to be out electronic versions or the current ones?

 

[rvitko]

The current ones and the new ones, you just plug them in to a standard back up system like they sell for computers that puts out 115V. It works on the 6060 and 6080 but it shouldn't be run long term on these models as they need a true sin wave to run properly.

 

[verper]

Sorry, I thought you were talking about a system that would be a DC only backup. AC current that is changed to DC. Once it is DC, it would run the controller and pump. Kind of like the way a Stream is set up now after the transformer, just with a battery backup stuck in there somewhere with a trickle charger and a switch that senses current loss. Anyone experimented with this type of setup? Maybe there is no advantage to it.

It would seem more efficient instead of AC changed to DC (backup batteries) to be changed back to AC (electrical outlet Stream transformer is pugged into) to run through the transformer that changes it back to DC for the controller and pump.

 

[rvitko]

It would be more efficient to go straight to DC but probably not so much more efficient to warrant the expense of a proprietary unit. On the new DC input pumps that will come out you will be able to use an auxillary lap top battery pack that plugs in to the power supply port.

 

[CraigsReef]

Roger,

If at all possible can you give some links to a good ups and explain exactly what we should be looking for in the unit. The longest power outage i went through was only like 10 hours but what would the rating need to be for example to carry 2 6055 for say 12 hrs, 24 hrs, and 36hrs?

What would be needed to carry 2 6100's for say 12hrs, 24hrs, and 36hrs. This is the information I need cause Im not really sure about this.

Craig

 

[rvitko]

http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1500

This unit could run a 6100 for 4hrs at full power, it could probably run a 6000 or 6055 or 30% power 6100 for 10+hrs. The MSRP is $249 but I have seen these locally for $200. These units are modular and additional battery modules can be added for more hours but realistically, anything beyond a day I think a generator is far more feasible than a battery.

 

[figuerres]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8879338#post8879338 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rvitko
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1500

This unit could run a 6100 for 4hrs at full power, it could probably run a 6000 or 6055 or 30% power 6100 for 10+hrs. The MSRP is $249 but I have seen these locally for $200. These units are modular and additional battery modules can be added for more hours but realistically, anything beyond a day I think a generator is far more feasible than a battery.

Yeah, just like with servers....

have a UPS that runs say 1 hour with a relay / switch to fire up a genny and transfer to the genny when it's running....

with low power use you might get batterys that get you up to 8-10 hours but cost of that can get up there....

 

[jmaneyapanda]

Roger, just to clarify, do the 6000 or 6100 need true sine waves, also. Or can they run a modified sine wave of the UPS?

 

[rvitko]

They can run on a modified sin wave, it is converted to DC in the driver so as long as it isn't a really bad wave it should be OK, it should be roughly 60Hz as a higher Hz could overload the driver.

 

[jmaneyapanda]

ROGER VITKO RULES!

 

[jeffbrig]

Just to throw out some personal experience...I happen to have the APC unit that Roger mentioned above connected to my 6100s. I had it in place when we were hit by Hurricane Wilma in Oct '05. With it, I was able to spell the generator for hours at a time and the batteries never ran down. I think the longest period I went was 4-5 hours. With the combo of a generator and battery backup, we survived 6 days without electricity and had no losses.