BB Tank: SPS grow fast, but have lost their color?

Travis Savant

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Hey guys I am having a problem with my SPS.

I have a 20g BB tank with a 10g sump (holds about 7 gallons when in opperation). I am running an AquaC Remora Protien skimmer, I do a 2-3 gallon waterchange weekly, and I run carbon and phosphate remover. I am using RO/DI water for top off and water changes (mixed with IO). I does Ocean's Blend 2 Part Ca and pH/Alk daily as suggested. I have a 250w AB 10k DE over the tank running on a Hamilton Magnetic Ballast. I have a Mag 5 as the sump return and a Mag 9.5 on a closed loop.

The SPS that I have, when I bought them, where beautiful, which is why I bought them. They all seem to have grown quickly in the short time that I have had them (I got them in Febuary). But most of them have browned out or have lost that cherry-picked look.

All of my SPS where at least first generation captive grown.

Here are some before and after pictures:

Cali Tort. Went from a beautiful frag to a not as good looking one. All the while haveing an extremely fast growth rate.
Cali-Tort.jpg

to (one of the branches had been fraged for a friend)
Cali-Tort.jpg


Another example is my "Purple" Bonsai
(It had just been recently added to the tank is why it is sliming)
Silver-Bullet-Maybe.jpg

to
Brown-Bonsai.jpg


Here's another. An Encrusint Montipora
Green-Cap.jpg

to
Encrusting-Monti.jpg


As you can see, they all have had phanominal growth in the past few months, but the colors have dwendled.

Some one has suggested to me that it may be because of the lack of nutrience. Ture? They suggested feeding more, less water changes and higher bioloads. This sounds crazy, or is it? Does the same ideology of "more water changes" reamain truth for a BB tank?

Another suggestion was lighting. Because the light that I have has such a high PAR raiting, does it make it bad? Can you have too much PAR? It's about 13" off the surface of the water.

Is anyone else with a BB tank with a low bioload and powerful lighting experienceing the same problems as I am having?
 
If you're placing them directly into epoxy, they will either stn or lose color. I've seen it a million times ;)

Don't know if that's your problem, but just a tip.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7224417#post7224417 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clkwrk
looks like nutrient starvation .

How many fish do you have?Fedding? Params?

I second that.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7224488#post7224488 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Purple Haze
If you're placing them directly into epoxy, they will either stn or lose color. I've seen it a million times ;)

Don't know if that's your problem, but just a tip.

Very true.
 
When epoxy cures, it often adds a bit of heat. A lot of epoxy - can cause issues for the coral.

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IMO, that's a LOT of light on a 20, how long is your photoperiod, how high above the tank is the bulb?

IMO, you may be dealing with two things - lack of nutrient, and very clear water + lots of intense light.

What's your fish load? What do you feed, how often?
I'd think that provided your skimmer can remove it, adding more food might not be a bad idea. With low bioload, barebottom, strong chemical filtration [carbon/PO4] and strong skimming ... you've got very clear water [lots of light getting to corals] plus running the coral mostly on photosynthesis.
Perhaps adjusting lighting or feeding [slowly, patiently] might give better results.
 
Marineland putty is bad about putting off heat. I have used Deltec putty and had no problems with heat or corals dying/losing color.
 
Nitrates, Nitrites, and Amonia all undetectable.

SG is 1.024, and I don't mix salt with my top off water, it's just strate RO/DI.

I have two fish, a Stacki Damselfish and a Fridmani Psudochromis. I feed them once or twice aday.

I syphon out ditrus once a week from the starboard.

I also have been warned about the Epoxy and I have stopped using it.

I'm not sure what type of phosphate remover I have, it's on a filter pad along with the carbon. I only started recentlyusing these pads, before I was usnig Aqua Clear Carbon bags.

It was suggested to me to use DT's Oyster Eggs to feed the SPS, good idea?

Do you guys think that I should add some bagged, dry sand and a small cup of live sand? Would that work, or would it create more problems than it would solve?
 
From another thread...
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7224558#post7224558 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hahnmeister
Your corals look like they are getting too much light...no doubt with a 250wattDE on a 20H! I know because I have a few of those corals that you do, and when I ran a 250wattDE 10,000K over a similar size tank, I had the same problems (bleaching, browning, the only corals that grew were digis).

You have plenty of light to spare, and no blue light as is. I would swap the bulb for a 20,000K or 14,000K. Your corals will color up just like that. My GARF bonsai was a slow grower & brown when I had 10,000K as well...then when I switched to 14,000K...it lit up like 'barney the dino purple' and kermit green polyps.

www.illuming.com sells the 14,000K pheonix for $50 shipped. Or, you could get just about any other bluer bulb you want and still have plenty of output to spare for that tank.

Sweet tank otherwise, nice clean look.
Should I try that first before I do anything?
 
What is your PO4? I would bet that if you started feeding something to the corals in a few weeks you will see a big difference.
 
I think if you add one more small fish and feed the corals or one more feeding with the fish a day the colors may start to bloom. I think that you have alot of light over that small tank but I would go buying new $50 bulbs until you try the nutrient deal first. Wait a couple of weeks in between what you try as it might confuse which worked or didnt. Other then the colors they look very healthy.
 
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