Beware-people do stupid things

jsolomito

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This isn't really a question,more of a commentery, and a warning. I'm sure many of you have had similar occurences but this was a first for me.
When I set up my new 135 gallon tank, one of my main goals was easy maintenance. As a result, everything was hard plumbed. The sump, skimmer, charcoal canister, UV sterilizer, storage vats for salt and fresh water as well as a freshwater supply and drain. I did all of the plumbing myself with the exception of tapping into the freshwater line and the waste water drain. For this I hired a local plumber who has done work for me before and always has seemed quite competent. Unfortunately, when he tapped into the waste water drain he cracked one of the fittings. I didn't find this until about a week later when I did my first water change. It was quite obvious when the drain water was spraying onto the floor instead of going into the waste line. While at work today, I called my trusty plumber and he assured me he would be down in an hour to fix it. My daughter let him in and it seemed like all was well. What could possibly go wrong, right?
I was overjoyed when he called me at work to inform me that the repair had been completed and it worked fine. He even reassured me "I tested it for you and there are no leaks." My breathing stopped. Cautiously, I asked "what exactly do you mean by you tested it for me"? He replied, "I opened the valve that leads to the drain line and pumped water through it to make sure there were no leaks." Now my heart stopped also.
As you can see, the plumbing in my equipment room is fairly complex.
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Some here would say that it looks like a bootleggers still on steroids. It really works well and is very simple to use IF you know what you are doing. I couldn't imagine that someone would actually look at this maze of pipes and valves, knowing that it is connected to a very expensive looking saltwater tank, and begin turning valves indiscriminately without triple checking with the owner, me, to make sure they weren't going to mess anything up. But, alas, my imagination wasn't up to the task because that's exactly what he did. He then went on to inform me that "the water level in that plastic tank on the floor looks a little low, and something is making a lot of noise ". I thumped my chest a few times to get the pulse going again. I thought, "OK, calm down. He's a plumber, he should be able to follow some directions". I directed him as to where to find the fill mark on my sump and the drain valve on the salt water storage tank. I told him, "all you have to do is open the valve on the salt water storage tank and wait until the water level reaches the mark on the sump and then turn the valve off". He informed me he would have to call me back because his cell phone did not have service in my basement and he had to make the call to me from the first floor. The next five minutes were among the longest in recent memory. When my cell phone rang again I took a deep breath, pushed the send button and hoped for the best. It just wasn't to be. His voice was much more hesitant this time. "Well Doc, it looks like your tank may be flooding over onto the floor, and there is a really funny smell down there.". Breathing and heart beat stopped simultaneously. I started getting that tunnel vision that pilots describe when they're in a high-g turn and about to lose consciousness. "Pull yourself together I thought. You are not going to faint in front of all your employees". With as much control as I could muster I whispered into the phone "Stop everything! Go back down there and turn off every switch you see and close every valve you can see. Do it now!" My cell phone didn't ring again. No matter how much I tried there was no way I could concentrate on work at this point and told my staff I had to leave because of an emergency. Somehow I didn't get a speeding ticket on the way home. The sight of my still, motionless tank and the water soaking into the carpet below it sent a chill down my spine. I could smell of ozone in the air. He had pumped so much water out of the system that the skimmer lost its prime and had been running dry and the ozone injector had been pumping raw ozone into the air. The overflow on the tank had lost its siphon and when he began pumping water back into the tank he just kept on pumping until he heard splashing noises in the other room. The splashing water tripped the GFI and the entire system was dead. Oh, by the way, the plumber was gone, but at least he didn't leave a bill! After about four hours of cleanup, water testing, resetting of valves and bringing equipment back on line 1 piece at a time it looks like no permanent damage was done other than to my emotional stability. As I write this, my resting heart rate still climbs to about 20 beats above normal as I recall the details.
If you have had a similar experience, my heart goes out to you. If you have not, let this be a warning. You built the system, you know it inside out, and no matter how simple a routine adjustment may seem to you, never, ever let someone touch your stuff unless you have personally checked them out on it and are sure they know what they're doing. They'll screw it up every time, and it's just not worth the expense of all the Valium you have to take for the next couple of weeks afterwards.
Joe
 
wow I know exactly how it feels. I've flooded my living room once and it was enough to make me really simplify my system and I made it super foolproof. Now I am a firm believer of the KISS principle.

Sorry to hear about what happened!
 
Oh, rushing has been out of the question. Research for the project started about 6 months ago. The build started about three months ago and the first fish has yet to see the water. Cycle is just about complete. My problem is I work 7 days a week, usually about 10 hrs. a day. I had 10 days off when my daughter was on spring break and we used this time to put the system together. The reality is, once that vacation time was over, there was not going to be another opportunity to upgrade the system. Period. So we tried to figure out everything we might eventually need/want, and put it into the system from the gitgo. Maintenance was another issue. The "toys" are not simply because I like gadgets (which I admit I do) but because I was determined not to start something like this unless it could be maintained properly over the long term. Again, reality bites, but the fact is that if I had to start hauling out hoses and buckets to do things like water changes and top ups, they simply wouldn't get done as often as they should. The way it's set up I can do a 5% weekly water change by simply turning two valves - 5 minutes. Daily top ups involve flipping one valve. There is always 30 gal. of fresh water and 30 gal. of salt mix aging and aerating. The philosophy was if we put in the time and expense at the beginning, it would ultimately save more time, and probably expense later on. I realize this approach isn't practical for everyone, but for me it was the only option.
Joe
 
All the pipes and storage cans are labeled. The idea was to plan for something just like this. If I ever had to let someone look after the system for me, I wanted it to be as KISS as possible. So much for that idea!
Joe
 
While I understand that your system is designed to simplify things in light of your busy schedule, sometimes things don't turn out that way. I work 80+ hours a week and set up a complex system for the same reasons you mentioned. In the end, everything is sold/selling and I am setting up another tank with just powerheads, lights, skimmer, simple plumbing and heater.

The problem lies in situations like this. Complicated systems are easier to maintain, UNTIL THEY BREAK....

I am glad no permanent damage was done.
 
Glad it worked out! At least you can prescribe yourself some Angiotensin-Converting Enzyme (ACE) Inhibitors, some benzodiazepines and a diet coke. Sit back and think, this will be funny next year:lol:
 
wow...what a story. Glad to hear it worked out. That plumbing scheme you got going there looks like a Rube Goldberg mousetrap. I'd have to employ live-in plumber to manage that system!
 
Thanks for sharing. When I'm gone for a few days, I just tell my roommates to stay away. Don't feed, dont touch anything, stay away LOL

They understand. I was thinking the other day, it really takes a "special" (lol) kind of person to run these SW tanks. We are a different breed. that plumber just wasn't one of us. Glad nothing died
 
I hope someday you can laugh at that story. My system is still in the works and label and instructions are not complete. I did tell my wife "if anything looks wrong flip these three switches and call me ASAP".
 
Thats alot of pipe! It looks like someone was having a going out of business sale on those valves. You gotta feel for that plumber. I mean can you imagine trying to remember which one of those things you turned, and how much? He also knows when to make an exit! I love the no cell phone service part! I can just imagine sitting there for 5 minutes wondering what was happening. I bet he used that 5 minutes to get a good head start down the road, so you wouldn't be able to catch him! Since no permanent harm was done, I gotta tell you, this story is really funny if you imagine yourself in the plumbers place. He is probably over on the plumber's forum telling his friends about his narrow escape. Try not to kill him when you see him again, guys with that much cockiness just don't grow on trees. I mean it really took some gumption to just start turning those valves! Can you imagine him working at 3 mile Island? Great story!
 
Honestly, how hard can it be to remember what you just did? This was simply an unfortunate case of incompetence. The guy was a plumber, shouldn't he know something about water and flow? It's already bad that he cracked a fitting doing something simple, but messing with a paying customers personal stuff (our reef tanks) is ridiculous.
Good thing it didn't do any major damage.
 
I feel for ya.......I would've been spinning in anxiety if that happened while I was at work, I bet that 5 minutes felt like an eternity!!! Good thing is that no major or permanent damage was done.

I used to work as a medical assistant in Internal med. so I fully understand the time constraints you have. I would reccommend labeling all your equipment and valves and placing a diagram on the wall next to your system in case something like this happens again. That way if you say turn the x valve or valve #4 the person there should be able to remember that and get it done. My system is not as complex as yours, in emergencies I basically have certain plugs to unplug. I've labeled ALL my plugs so even my 9yr old can act quickly in an emergency.
 
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