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Blasted Pyramid Snails!!
- Thread starter ange062
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i am clear also. personally, i would not trust LA/DD.heard some negatives, plus the clams ive gotten from there look nothing like the exaggerated overcolored pics they show. they are very good on their guarantee, though. dr mac. pacific east. or coral props. those'd be my choices.
ange062
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Yeah, I have head some things about LA/DD also, but their guarantee is pretty awesome and the people that I know have experienced issues they have always been quickly and completely resolved. Their prices are HIGH for nice clams though.
I love the pacific east stuff, but they are all >5". I know it's weird, but I am looking for <3" clams due to my limited space, a 5" would take up WAY too much real estate. I just sent them an email to see if they have any smaller ones that they don't list on their site.
ange062
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I got a response from PEA, Tahitian law prohibits export of clams under 4" so they only have larger specimens. They are working on getting an aquaculture farm setup there to allow export of smaller specimens (and less impact on natural habitat), both good things so really looking forward to it. Don't think it will be anytime soon unfortunately.
Until then I guess I'm stuck with two clams unless I get lucky enough to find a real stunner from ORA and snag it up in time. Bummer...
Then again, I guess I could just upgrade my tank!
Beenalongtime79
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By the way, how do you avoid introducing pyramid snails from a clam from a store. Is there some dip that you can place the clam in prior to introduction in the tank.
Also, I do have pyramid snails and they do seem to hang out on the mantle of my crocea, but after a few weeks of constant scrubbing and having them show up over and over again, I gave up and just thought the clam would eventually succumb to the infestation, but it hasn't and the snails remain, but the crocea continues to grow.... maybe slower than it would have, but they really haven't killed the clam. Infestation was first noticed 1.5 years ago and the clam is growing. Could it be possible the clam has developed somewhat of a resistance to the constant predation?
Back to the wrasse question, anybody have luck with a yellow coris wrasse?
Also, I do have pyramid snails and they do seem to hang out on the mantle of my crocea, but after a few weeks of constant scrubbing and having them show up over and over again, I gave up and just thought the clam would eventually succumb to the infestation, but it hasn't and the snails remain, but the crocea continues to grow.... maybe slower than it would have, but they really haven't killed the clam. Infestation was first noticed 1.5 years ago and the clam is growing. Could it be possible the clam has developed somewhat of a resistance to the constant predation?
Back to the wrasse question, anybody have luck with a yellow coris wrasse?
maybe they aren't really pyrams, rufio. a few weeks anyway will not be enough to interrupt the life cycle. that takes about 2-3 months done properly. you didn't throw away bad sand, i'll bet. no immunity from pyrams, sorry. no on coris wrasses either. awake at different times. a pic of some snails might help id them.
Beenalongtime79
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They are definitely pyramids as I found them sucking on the mantle of the clam and I have scraped off tiny, tiny egg sacks.
ange062
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As moliken stated, diligence over months (not weeks) as well as isolation from the sand bed are key. I had good luck with molikens help as documented in this thread.
The key to keeping any pest out of your tank is to quarantine before introduction, watch for signs and treat for them in the QT. This isnt feasible for many of us (including myself) so Ive been through plenty of battles with coral and clam pests
I am a huge beleiver in freshwater dips for clams, they have helped me greatly over the years with my clams. That would be the only "dip" I would suggest, you shouldnt mess with coral dips.
The key to keeping any pest out of your tank is to quarantine before introduction, watch for signs and treat for them in the QT. This isnt feasible for many of us (including myself) so Ive been through plenty of battles with coral and clam pests
I am a huge beleiver in freshwater dips for clams, they have helped me greatly over the years with my clams. That would be the only "dip" I would suggest, you shouldnt mess with coral dips.
Beenalongtime79
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As moliken stated, diligence over months (not weeks) as well as isolation from the sand bed are key. I had good luck with molikens help as documented in this thread.
The key to keeping any pest out of your tank is to quarantine before introduction, watch for signs and treat for them in the QT. This isnt feasible for many of us (including myself) so Ive been through plenty of battles with coral and clam pests
I am a huge beleiver in freshwater dips for clams, they have helped me greatly over the years with my clams. That would be the only "dip" I would suggest, you shouldnt mess with coral dips.
I see, so how long in the freshwater and what is the salinity?
Cheers,
John
ange062
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My process follows:
* RODI water
* Put water in ziplock and float in tank to temp acclimate for 15min
* Use baking soda to match pH, add until matched (note it maxes at some point, so I typically use 3/4-tsp per ziplock to get close to my 8.3ph)
* Pour water in bucket (container etc to size)
* Remove clam and immediately blast with turkey baster around the shell starting with mantle area before it closes up completely
* Repeat every 5min
* 30min max total dip is fine
* Scrub shell with toothbrush at some point during dip to remove all foreign matter
* Introduce clam back into main DT, be sure to "burp" the clam by rotating slowly 360deg
It's saved countless cases of PM on my 3 maximas over the ages. I almost consider it routine maintenance at this point. I've done it at least monthly on certain clams, especially my super sensitive and rare small maximas (under 2").
Salinity is 0 to answer your original question
Beenalongtime79
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My process follows:
* RODI water
* Put water in ziplock and float in tank to temp acclimate for 15min
* Use baking soda to match pH, add until matched (note it maxes at some point, so I typically use 3/4-tsp per ziplock to get close to my 8.3ph)
* Pour water in bucket (container etc to size)
* Remove clam and immediately blast with turkey baster around the shell starting with mantle area before it closes up completely
* Repeat every 5min
* 30min max total dip is fine
* Scrub shell with toothbrush at some point during dip to remove all foreign matter
* Introduce clam back into main DT, be sure to "burp" the clam by rotating slowly 360deg
It's saved countless cases of PM on my 3 maximas over the ages. I almost consider it routine maintenance at this point. I've done it at least monthly on certain clams, especially my super sensitive and rare small maximas (under 2").
Salinity is 0 to answer your original question
30 minutes in 0 salinity RO/DI water buffered to pH of 8.3. Am I hearing that right? :eek2:
How did you check pH? That is a super long time, no casualties?
Cheers,
John
The clams on ice at your grocery store are alive. They are pretty resilient.
Beenalongtime79
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Ang, thanks! I may try that and actually set up a separate tank for the clam and just keep at it so I don't keep disturbing the rest of the inhabitants in the display.
I am a little wary of such a long freshwater dip but since you have had good results, I might try it out.
Cheers,
John
I am a little wary of such a long freshwater dip but since you have had good results, I might try it out.
Cheers,
John
ange062
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I've done this with all of my clams MANY MANY times over the years and never had a single issue. And yes, you are hearing that right
pH check with a normal test kit or probe. Very resilient indeed!
You can always try a shorter duration if your are nervous, but 30min is definitely fine (I actually think I went a little over to about 35min when I did a FW dip 2days ago).
ange062
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Oh, and here is a link to a credible source on FW dips, just to drive the point home, LOL
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/jf/index.php
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_6/volume_6_4/clams.html
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/jf/index.php
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_6/volume_6_4/clams.html
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