Bleached My Corals... Neep Pro Advice!

BreadmanMike

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I switched out my Radiums for XM's last week, and this afternoon when my lights came on everything under the new lighting was bleached out.


I raised my pendants and cut my photoperiod down to 3 hours, but it obviously wasn't enough.

My question for you all is... how should I go about trying to save these? Whatever it takes I'll do, my wife is having a heart attack! A few of the bleached corals were hers...

Please help! :confused:
 
Expert is not the name for me, but I do have my share of experience with bleached corals from the XM's(10ks). There is not alot you can really do, raise the light more(obviously) and make sure you feed the tank alot. Bleaching has reduced the corals abilty to use light as part of its energy source so you'll need to make it up with feeding. Keep things stable and the corals will recover and grow back in no time. On a brighter note I had a brown acro. No matter what the other corals in the tank looked like this one was poo brown. It bleached but when it came back it was dark rich purple. :)


What ballast are you running those bad boys on?
 
Reef-Daddy,

You're expert enough for me!;)


I did raise the pendants another 2", so I'm 4" higher then I was under the radiums. I also cut the XM's down to 2 - 1.5 hour intervals 3 hours apart.

I'm running them on ARO m59's. I knew it was a bit more powerful, but didn't realize it was enough to bleach.

I never fed anything to the tank other then mysis and flake for the few fish I have in there. What should I feed them in the mean time?
 
I really just feed the heck out of my fish, fish poo is an sps delicacy. You could use any type of zooplankton supplement if you don't have enough fish to consume more food. Just don't use too much, you'll throw your system off balance
 
Cool, thanks so much for the help! I feel a bit relieved knowing things have a chance to survive. For some reason I thought bleaching meant certain death of the animal.

I'll keep a close eye on everything and feed the fish a bit extra until I see improvements. I knew about the fish poo, just wasn't sure it was enough to heal the corals.
 
Nah corals are tougher than we give them credit for. :)

I am swtiching from 250w12k reeflux on elec ballasts bulbs to 400w radiums on an hqi tomorrow and praying.
 
Like Reef-Daddy said, feed! There are studies that show a few species of bleached corals can meet almost all of thier demand for metabolic needs through feeding..some can't. The one in particular was a montipora, that when healthy got only 15% of it's nutrition through feeding, and while bleached was able to increase it's feeding to make up for the lack of zooxanthellae. Here is a quote from Andrea G. Grottoli, Assistant Professor Ohio State University Department of Geological Sciences, that I read from the Coral List at coral-list@coral.aoml.noaa.gov.

"our paper showed
that only one species, Montipora capitata,
consumed enough zooplankton to meet all of its
metabolic demand heterotrophically when
bleached. When healthy, M. capitata met less
than 15% of its metabolic demand
heterotrophically. The other two species we
studied, Porites compressa and Porites lobata,
only met 21-35% of their daily metabolic demand
heterotrophically when they were either healthy
or bleached. In all cases, our corals were
exposed to naturally occurring zooplankton on the
reef. Thus under natural reef conditions, not
all bleached corals can meet all of their
metabolic needs heterotrophically. Under
artificially fed conditions (i.e., coral exposed
to higher than ambient concentrations of
zooplankton or brine shrimp in tanks), things can
be quite different. As you pointed out, the
fact that corals do get some fixed carbon from
zooplankton has been know for a very long
time. However, the fact that when bleached at
least one species can increase heterotrophic
feeding to meet all of its metabolic needs while
two others could not, is novel."

HTH a little, or at least provides some hope..good luck with your corals...hope you get full recovery!!

PK
 
Steve-

Good luck on that switch and thanks again for the help. Anby reason why you opted to go with the radiums on HQI instead of XM's on m59's?


PK-

Thanks for the link and the good wishes! The corals that took the biggest hit were a couple of caps, a few stylo's, and the one that hurts most... a blue deepwater walindi. Hopefully things can recover.

One last question... My walindi has an acro crab living in it. He's still in there, but if the crab leaves does it mean the coral is done for?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7478391#post7478391 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquaticman74
Steve-

Good luck on that switch and thanks again for the help. Anby reason why you opted to go with the radiums on HQI instead of XM's on m59's?


Now why did you have to ask that! :) It came down to the radiums burning whiter on the hqi ballst than the XM's on M59's and the ppfd higher at 147 v. 128 for the xms. The down side is they use more juice and I'll need to replace them every 6 months. I guess really I wanted to see what the radium hype was about


edit actually the radiums on an hqi only use 7 watts more, thats not too bad!
 
Steve,

I'm running the 250w radiums on HQI's side by side with the 400w XM's. I'm not sure if the 400's will be much whiter, but the 250's aren't much different then the XM's. The only difference I can see in the two is the green's and purple's look better under the XM's.

If you've seen the XM's in person, let me know how the two compare.

Thanks!

PS... I don't use any supplemental, so take that into consioderation.
 
The greater the PAR the more metabolic by products are produced by the corals. If you don't increase the amount of flow the corals end up bleaching. Scleractinia cellular respiration is directly related to flow and light. The more light you have (new bulbs with super levels of photosynthetic active radiation) the more flow that you need. Jake Adams presented a really interesting study on this at IMAC this year.
 
This is my walindi now... :(

Just to be sure, this is a bleached coral right?

DSC01142.jpg
 
Yes that is RTN 100% I hope the rest of your corals don't look like that :(

Bleached is a white coral that still has visible polyps and tissue but all white .
 
I have 5 other corals that look the same way, they were all fine yesterday. RTN happens this fast? :(

Man everything is in check too.

PH 8.32
Alk 8.4
Ca 430
PO4 0
NO3 0
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Mg 1290
Salinity 1.026

The only thing drastic is the lighting change last week. This really sucks!
 
most of the time they will move on to the next but during the night hours only as they are sensitive to light and preadators
 
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