Blue Carpet Splitting......
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killerbubbles
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April fool's????
Rapide
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I've seen stranger things happen... Just because something has not been reported doesn't mean it has not happened, does it?
There still is not a fool proof reason why anemones split - what triggers it. Some BTAs split all the time, some never... Some Stichodactyla anemones can be cut and they survive just fine.
I'm not saying that this did or didn't happen, just that as an ichthyologist I've seen some bizarre things... There is new information coming week after week after week from our oceans. New species, old species that should not exist anymore, strange bahaviour by fish and invertebrates... There are marine species found in freshwater ponds where they REALLY should not be and vise versa. Sharks in rivers, anemones and fishes living inside ice... Just saying that new info is coming all the time!
Then there is this little thing called evolution, ever heard of it?
Mutations and hybrids, superspecies and stuff...
Don't jump the gun. You never know...
And to the thread starter, please tell more! Some of us are really interested in this subject, especially if this is true
There still is not a fool proof reason why anemones split - what triggers it. Some BTAs split all the time, some never... Some Stichodactyla anemones can be cut and they survive just fine.
I'm not saying that this did or didn't happen, just that as an ichthyologist I've seen some bizarre things... There is new information coming week after week after week from our oceans. New species, old species that should not exist anymore, strange bahaviour by fish and invertebrates... There are marine species found in freshwater ponds where they REALLY should not be and vise versa. Sharks in rivers, anemones and fishes living inside ice... Just saying that new info is coming all the time!
Then there is this little thing called evolution, ever heard of it?
Mutations and hybrids, superspecies and stuff...Don't jump the gun. You never know...
And to the thread starter, please tell more! Some of us are really interested in this subject, especially if this is true
As a scientist you also realize that you can not base anything one account. It could be an anomoly.
There is no documentation to back this scientifically, this type of reproduction has never been observed or photographed.
I would have stayed up to see the tearing point, it would be an amazing scientific breakthrough. Without that evidence we can only at best guess assume the worst aka slicing it in two.
The break is too clean the two halves look evenly cut matching. Anemones dont split into equal halfs there is always a bigger side.
Imo its cut and the pinching picture is of the two anemones side by side attempting to close up after being cut.
Without photos you can only go on past pictures and that what this look like. There are pictures missig and those pictures of tearing tissue and a tearin mouth are really the only ones that matter. Before and afters are worthless
There is no documentation to back this scientifically, this type of reproduction has never been observed or photographed.
I would have stayed up to see the tearing point, it would be an amazing scientific breakthrough. Without that evidence we can only at best guess assume the worst aka slicing it in two.
The break is too clean the two halves look evenly cut matching. Anemones dont split into equal halfs there is always a bigger side.
Imo its cut and the pinching picture is of the two anemones side by side attempting to close up after being cut.
Without photos you can only go on past pictures and that what this look like. There are pictures missig and those pictures of tearing tissue and a tearin mouth are really the only ones that matter. Before and afters are worthless
Rapide
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Reefvette, I'm not a scientist I do have an education in ichthyology, but I don't work in that field... As I said, I don't take a side in this matter. I was just making a point that you never know until you know, you know? Haha! 
There has been stories told about haddonis splitting, but as it has been said no scientific reportation... I'm not an expert of this, but asuxual reproduction of this species is not impossible! It would still be nice to know if this really happened. And as Reefvette said, it is such a rare thing that I might have taken some shots too to prove it
I do have an education in ichthyology, but I don't work in that field... As I said, I don't take a side in this matter. I was just making a point that you never know until you know, you know? Haha! There has been stories told about haddonis splitting, but as it has been said no scientific reportation... I'm not an expert of this, but asuxual reproduction of this species is not impossible! It would still be nice to know if this really happened. And as Reefvette said, it is such a rare thing that I might have taken some shots too to prove it
No one ask for HD.
Have you ever had an anemone split?
There is a point where the two halves need to seperate and the tearing of the mouth or disc would have to be seen. Its doesnt take 5 minutes. Sometimes it can take hours or days.
Its like those before and after shots of people that lose weight, i could tell you they lost weight using a new diet but it was actually lap band.
Have you ever had an anemone split?
There is a point where the two halves need to seperate and the tearing of the mouth or disc would have to be seen. Its doesnt take 5 minutes. Sometimes it can take hours or days.
Its like those before and after shots of people that lose weight, i could tell you they lost weight using a new diet but it was actually lap band.
killerbubbles
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before this latest split, when was the most recent previous split?
elegance coral
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The more extraordinary the claims, the more extraordinary the evidence needs to be to support them.
What we have here are some incredible claims with absolutely no evidence to back them up. I can claim that my clowns gave live birth, then post pic's of mom, pop, and junior. What does that prove???? Nothing! Clowns don't give live birth, bears don't lay eggs, and haddonis don't split.
If I took two anemones, one bleached, one not bleached, cut them both in half, then posted pic's of the aftermath. I would have the exact same evidence shown in this thread. The evidence presented here does not come close to substantiating the overwhelmingly incredible claims that are being made.
I would be more inclined to believe in photos of big foot than for one person to have four different haddonis split in their care, and to have one haddoni, after being cut in half......... I mean split, recover from extreme bleaching in a few days. These things don't happen, never have happened, never will happen, and we have absolutely no evidence to suggest that they may happen.
IMHO, we have photos of two different anemones that have met their fate on a chopping block. Nothing more.
The only thing threads like this accomplish is to encourage more people to send their anemones to the chopping block, and the anemones slow, gruesome demise.
What we have here are some incredible claims with absolutely no evidence to back them up. I can claim that my clowns gave live birth, then post pic's of mom, pop, and junior. What does that prove???? Nothing! Clowns don't give live birth, bears don't lay eggs, and haddonis don't split.
If I took two anemones, one bleached, one not bleached, cut them both in half, then posted pic's of the aftermath. I would have the exact same evidence shown in this thread. The evidence presented here does not come close to substantiating the overwhelmingly incredible claims that are being made.
I would be more inclined to believe in photos of big foot than for one person to have four different haddonis split in their care, and to have one haddoni, after being cut in half......... I mean split, recover from extreme bleaching in a few days. These things don't happen, never have happened, never will happen, and we have absolutely no evidence to suggest that they may happen.
IMHO, we have photos of two different anemones that have met their fate on a chopping block. Nothing more.
The only thing threads like this accomplish is to encourage more people to send their anemones to the chopping block, and the anemones slow, gruesome demise.
Patricklong
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Damn, I surprised he isnt burning at the stakes already. Or stones tied to his feet and see if he floats.
Could it be that it was actually TWO carpets, that just LOOKED like one?
Could it be that it was actually TWO carpets, that just LOOKED like one?
velvetelvis
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I have to agree. Not trying to rain on anybody's parade here, but I'm more inclined to trust the consensus of the scientific community than I am to give credence to anecdotes--even if they are accompanied by pictures.
phender
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I would love to think that haddoni carpets can reproduce asexually. I have seen circumstances where they seem to "bud" but it may be result of injury and the process took a long time (months) and even then I have not seen it result in two completely separate anemones.
Maybe I am being too critical, like EC said, things just don't add up. 1) Haddonis just don't heal like BTAs or Mags. You run a BTA or Mag through a powerhead and its healed in a couple weeks. If a haddoni is damaged in a powerhead it takes months if it recovers at all. 2) Anemones don't go from bleached to fully colored up in "a few days". 3) The information given in another thread about the split does not match up exactly with the info given in this thread. 4) The OP has been a member on this board since 2003, has had this happen "several" times in his tank but never thought to mention it until now? 5) The OP has been a member since 2003, yet his first ever post was 6 days ago and since then has built up 26 posts. Sounds like someone's kid is using dads account.
Now, I hope I am wrong, but when I look at the pictures I see an anemone that has been cut in half and placed back in the tank. After the split neither one is attached to anything in any of the subsequent pics. One half didn't make it, another anemone was cut in half and is trying to be passed off as the other half.
I have heard of haddonis splitting before as well, but in those cases they didn't split like this, as I said before, it took months, not hours.
I hate being like this but (pardon the pun), it just smells fishy.
Maybe I am being too critical, like EC said, things just don't add up. 1) Haddonis just don't heal like BTAs or Mags. You run a BTA or Mag through a powerhead and its healed in a couple weeks. If a haddoni is damaged in a powerhead it takes months if it recovers at all. 2) Anemones don't go from bleached to fully colored up in "a few days". 3) The information given in another thread about the split does not match up exactly with the info given in this thread. 4) The OP has been a member on this board since 2003, has had this happen "several" times in his tank but never thought to mention it until now? 5) The OP has been a member since 2003, yet his first ever post was 6 days ago and since then has built up 26 posts. Sounds like someone's kid is using dads account.
Now, I hope I am wrong, but when I look at the pictures I see an anemone that has been cut in half and placed back in the tank. After the split neither one is attached to anything in any of the subsequent pics. One half didn't make it, another anemone was cut in half and is trying to be passed off as the other half.
I have heard of haddonis splitting before as well, but in those cases they didn't split like this, as I said before, it took months, not hours.
I hate being like this but (pardon the pun), it just smells fishy.
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