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TracyZeuner

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I think it is very interesting. I don't remember seeing a haddoni with long tentacles around the mouth like that. It could be gigantea but the tentacles are very dense and they are not very pointed (from what I can see). I don't think merten's come in blue, but they might.

I am predicting that we will see purple/blue spots under the oral disk, making it a very healthy gigantea, but that is why I asked. :D
 
Now that is a seriously nice carpet.

I'm gonna bet against phender though. :p I think it's a haddoni. (A really nice haddoni though :) )

My old haddoni looked like that as well (tentacle length). Heck it even "wiggled" its tentacles. But it was so definitely a haddoni and not a gigantea. Although it was suggested to me that it could be a hybrid since it resembled very much the one in TRA (Vol I? Vol II? I don't remember offhand) where D&S suggested one of the pictured carpets was a hybrid.

Anyhow the verrucae will tell us one way or the other. :cool:
 
I will try and get a picture of the underside later, the clown wont let me get near the thing. If I put my hand in the water, she bites me
 
yep (there are appear to be some "dots" or verrucae that I can see on the actinic picture but same color as the uppermost column).

exocoelic tentacles can be twice as long as endocoelic tentacles on s. haddoni meaning that haddons can have different length tentacles on the oral disc (endocoels and exocoels are spaces inbetween mesentaries like spaces in between the spokes of a bicycle wheel ( the spokes being the mesentries and the hub being the mouth) also mertens would have some verrucae on the upper column.

hope this helps and is not too confusing.

the hybrid idea is interesting do you have a web link to the article you saw it in?
 
I don't see any dots. I think it just trick of the light and shadow. I think this is a Haddoni without a doubt with the second series of picture.
My haddoni seem to have longer tentacles in the middle also. Some of the tentacles also wiggle at times but I don't think it is a hybrid. Haddoni tentacles can move but not en masses like S. gigantea.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8668537#post8668537 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adtravels

exocoelic tentacles can be twice as long as endocoelic tentacles on s. haddoni meaning that haddons can have different length tentacles on the oral disc (endocoels and exocoels are spaces inbetween mesentaries like spaces in between the spokes of a bicycle wheel ( the spokes being the mesentries and the hub being the mouth) also mertens would have some verrucae on the upper column.

hope this helps and is not too confusing.

:eek: Uh .. Ok. :D I've learnt something new here I guess!

So .. Ok here's a question, how does one tell the difference between an exocoelic tentacle and a endocoelic tentacle? "Exo" vs "endo" is suggestive that some are "on the outside" and the other is "on the inside". What are other things to look for?


the hybrid idea is interesting do you have a web link to the article you saw it in?

I don't think I've seen it discussed with any seriousness online (it may have been, I'm just not aware of any link). It was mentioned (and mentioned only in passing, really), in Delbeek and Sprung's "The Reef Aquarium" Volume 2. There's a caption for a photo of a S. haddoni, on page 400 where they say it "may be a hybrid." I'm afraid I'm not aware of anything more profound than that, sorry...
 
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