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What must it be like to be the underdog all your life? Well the only true person and also a horse would be Seabiscuit and Gatsby, Gatsby from The Great Gatsby and Seabiscuit from Seabiscuit. Both who have overcome so much and almost obtained the joy and happiness everyone should feel whether it be man or animal. For the both of them changed the underdogs in the United States forever. It is unbelievable the obstacles this horse and man had to overcome to make their dreams come true. For one it was to win races and lift America while the other was to get the girl of his dreams.
This horse and man had to be one of the greatest underdog stories that was during the early 19th century in the United States, and I am not just saying that Gatsby and Seabiscuit changed people's lives for ever and showed people nothing is impossible if you put your mind to it. This is where the name champion was made. A lame horse, now if you said that to someone who knew about horses they would tell you to put the horse down well in fact Seabiscuit was a lame horse and look at how he turned out to be, one of the best racing horses ever, and as in Gatsby's case as well turned out to be one of the wealthiest people in America, but he paid the price with his life unlike Seabiscuit. Even though the both of them might have been lame to start out, both ended up being one of the greatest race horse ever and the other being one of the most successful people in America.
No matter how fame or fortune gets to you, you still have your old roots to which you go back to and don't forget. Gatsby and Seabiscuit did not forget where they came from, for if they did they would have not been nearly as successful as they were in the end. Gatsby could have easily let fortune get to his head, but if it were not for his goal which was to get Daisy he would have easily gone off into no man's land and end up probably as a rich old drunk. For Seabiscuit though it was the people around him that kept him going and in return Seabiscuit kept them going, such as Tom Smith, Red Pollard, and Charles Howard. Seabiscuit brought new life to these people and millions of others around America, and also brought new life to himself.(Bucknell University Studies, Vol. 111, No. 3.)
Odds stacked against you. Jay Gatsby was just an average man in the military trying to get a pretty rich girl that was beyond his reach and he knew that, and knew that he had to make some money in order to get the girl of his dreams, whether it be gain that wealth by breaking the law or doing it by the law, he just knew he had to get it quick and fast, and he did just that. It took him a mere 5 years to gain his wealth and when he did that his one goal was to get united with his first love Daisy. He does get united with Daisy through a special friend he met at his party he through to try and grab Daisy's attention, named Nick Carraway. But finally when Jay did get back the love of his dreams, Daisy knew that she could not be with him, but in fact had to be with a person that beat her and not treat her like a lady she was, which Jay would have treated her like one. Which in turn ends in a tragedy, Jay Gatsby pays the ultimate price of love and that is his life, for one thing only and that is true love.(Reference Guide to American Literature, 3rd ed.)
Small, lame, broken leg, what more must I say for a horse not to race anymore, talk about odds stacked up against you. This was Seabiscuit's case of the odds stacked up against him. First of all for a horse to be lame that normally means your career as racing is pretty much done and will never be able to race again. But in this mighty horse's case he took it as a challenge and went on with it, and never looked back. Becoming one of the best race horses's ever to race in the sport, along with the greats such as War Admiral who Seabiscuit beat by a long shot, and Man of War,etc.( Michael Wilmington, Chicago Tribune.) With all the bad luck Seabiscuit has seen through his life he still accomplished the best of the best and that is being the best racing horse in the world, so if he could do it, anyone can. Even though being the underdog and under sized to race he proved to everyone that nothing is impossible.( Carrie rickey, Philadelphia Inquirer.)
Underdog-One that is at a disadvantage. Jay Gatsby and Seabiscuit proved that there is no such thing as an underdog. And proved this by accomplishing the things they did in the short amount of time the two had. Even though you may be considered the weakling or the little guy with no money, you still have the chance to change all that with hard work and dedication which Seabiscuit and Jay Gatsby had. With the right team behind you (or person as in Gatsby's case, Nick Carraway) anything is possible and you just need that one little push to get the ball rolling and have success. So to call someone an underdog just because of their appearance or how much money they have is not justified and as fast as you can blink your eye's that underdog might end up being your boss one day or being the President of the United States. At one point in our lives everyone is an underdog, and its then when you see your true colors, and see if you act like Seabiscuit or Jay.
 
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Hillenbrand, Laura. Seabiscuit. New York: Random House, 2004. 1-256.


Fitzgerald, Scott F. The Great Gatsby. Chicago: Scribner, 1995. 14-214.


Kamp, Jim. "Reference Guide to American Literature." Rev. of The Great Gatsby.


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Rickey, Carrie. "Spirited Seabiscuit Beats the Odds." Rev. of Seabiscuit.


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i have had carpets the last 3 years and a 12g tank just wont do. the carpet will get big and eat all the fish in the tank then start polluting the water with waste byproducts from the feedings. i have never attempted anything other than MH lighting either but dont know why the WPG thing is always mentioned. with creatures like this unfortunately more light is better.

in the long run a carpet should be in nothing less than a 55 to make it happy in my eyes. but my carpet was cramped in a 90.

take it for what you will but long term success will be very difficult in smaller tanks.
 
I think i have mentioned that i do realize it will not be happy as it would want to be in the 12 gallon dlx and that is why iam moving it to my lagoon as i mentioned, but thanks anyways for your input.I to know a lot about carpets as well, could you please post some pics of your carpets for me, thank you.
 
Normally four to six watts per gallon of water will be important to help your's and my Carpet Anemone's maintain their good health. Trust me i know, i have done extensive research on these organisms and realize people would like to by them. IMO these anemone's are somewhat easy to take care of and by no means are for experts only. Yes people will tell you to start out with a bubble tip, but imo if you want a carpet and have the money to do so and have at least 4 watts per gallon go ahead and go for it. A challenge not taken is a loss of new experience.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7339911#post7339911 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
I think i have mentioned that i do realize it will not be happy as it would want to be in the 12 gallon dlx and that is why iam moving it to my lagoon as i mentioned, but thanks anyways for your input.I to know a lot about carpets as well, could you please post some pics of your carpets for me, thank you.

I would love to see pics of your lagoon. I am sure you have tons to share with us. Now that you know how to post pics, I would love to see them.
 
You think its funny, well pictures speak louder than words my friend. And patience is a virtue, use it. Also i have stated that i am waiting until i get a much better camera.
 
no, not that. I'm laughing at you having a conversation with yourself.
You do know that IP addresses are tracked, right?
 
What's with the school paper on The Great Gatsby? I haven't had my coffee yet, this thread is very confusing :confused:
 
You are wrong bluecarpet. You need to do more research on what you buy and stop giving advice to people that are new.
Buying animals and putting them in a no win situation is not a "challenge" it's just plain irresponsible.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7334052#post7334052 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
Thank you sushi, and thanks for the pics of the bud that was on the blue, looks very interesting. That is my next goal of mine to buy a whole lot of carpets (30-45) and hope they begin to split. Hopefully the goal will become true.
JMO, but that's probably not feasable. Where on earth would you put 45 carpets? You'd need at least a thousand gallons and a monster lighting system - coupled with the cost of the anemones, that would be an insane amount of money for what sounds like an experiment...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7346445#post7346445 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NewSchool04
You are wrong bluecarpet. You need to do more research on what you buy and stop giving advice to people that are new.
Buying animals and putting them in a no win situation is not a "challenge" it's just plain irresponsible.

I have to agree here. The carpet is an aggressive anemone that will eat live fish that it can catch. It pretty much grows to the size of a 20 gallon or so tank. In about 2 years of reading this and other forums frequently I have NEVER heard anyone say that a carpet anemone was easy to keep.

You are suggesting a low-medium amount of light of 4-6 wpg (and even mentioned that the stock lighting in your tank would be fine) when most consider this to be a high light demanding anemone. You are also suggesting to someone on here who doesn't even know about corals yet that they put one of these into their 20 gallon. Don't you think it would be wise to explain how big and aggressive this thing gets? You say you will move yours to a 24, wow, it will really be able to spread out in there. :rolleyes:

I am also curious how you plan to manage keeping 30-45 carpet anemone's in your possesion.

I agree that it is probably possible to keep a carpet in a nano tank that is at least big enough to contain the full sized anemone. But I think that would be a pretty difficult task for the average reefer. Plus, it's so big it amost has to be a species only tank.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7346445#post7346445 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NewSchool04
You are wrong bluecarpet. You need to do more research on what you buy and stop giving advice to people that are new.
Buying animals and putting them in a no win situation is not a "challenge" it's just plain irresponsible.
Freedom of speech at it's best. Well in fact you are very wrong. My organism is in a win-win situation, if you live in florida you are more than welcome to come and see my lagoon in person and then maybe you would change your mind. I have done extensive research on these organism's and knows what needs to be done in order to secure their healthy and long lived lives. So please before you jump to conclusions about telling me iam wrong, and think about what you need to do and say. And meaning challenge overall anemones are a challenge to keep and hopefully most people will agree with me on that. And who are you to judge me, in all honesty.

ps: i had to do that for my son so he could print it out at school b/c you can not access your email from school.
 
I hear where you are coming from hagfish, but in the end when big enough the blue will be in my lagoon. You do realize these things to not grow to 2 and half feet over night, right?:rolleyes: Well hopefully you do, you can control to some degree on how fast your carpet will grow, by feedings and what not. The more you feed the bigger it will become, the less you feed the slower it will grow. Once again i am not a so called newb when it comes to this kind of work. If a "new person" (as the others have called you) has any questions just give me a shout and i will tell you all you need to know. And to say 6 watts is on the low end of the spectrum is just insane of a thing to say.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7347152#post7347152 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
I hear where you are coming from hagfish, but in the end when big enough the blue will be in my lagoon. You do realize these things to not grow to 2 and half feet over night, right?:rolleyes: Well hopefully you do, you can control to some degree on how fast your carpet will grow, by feedings and what not. The more you feed the bigger it will become, the less you feed the slower it will grow. Once again i am not a so called newb when it comes to this kind of work. If a "new person" (as the others have called you) has any questions just give me a shout and i will tell you all you need to know. And to say 6 watts is on the low end of the spectrum is just insane of a thing to say.

First, I said 4-6 wpg (which came from you originally). Second, I said low-medium.

Considering 4-6 wpg is usually attainable with PC's and/or VHO's, I think it's risky to say that is going to be enough. Let's picture the average newbie with their 55 gallon tank and 220 watt Jebo PC fixture. I don't think that light will suffice for this anemone. Even better, I started out with a 110 watt jebo PC over a 20 gallon. Based on your info, I should have had no problem keeping a blue carpet.

In a nutshell, when you say 4-6 wpg, I'm thinking PC's and/or VHO's. That, is medium light IMO.

Also, I've seen anemone's grow incredibly fast, regaurdless of feeding schedule's if they are in good conditions.

I realize you are moving this to your lagoon. My concern is for those who have nano's that are asking your for help. You are making it sound like they can keep this thing in a nano forever.

Do you have any pics of the lagoon? I'd like to see it as I have only seen one other one. How big is it? And what are you keeping in there?
 
Well first of all i am by no means saying that it will be ok in a nano for long term, i am saying it will be fine for a short period of time. Dont put words in my mouth please.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7310432#post7310432 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
IMO you will need to wait at least another 3-4 months before getting an anemone, if you dont know much about corals do not, do not get a carpet anemone, chances are you will loose it. As far as not being big enough, that is incorrect you could keep a small carpet in a 20 gallon for a while but not long term, i plan on keeping mine in the 12 for another 7-8 months, then moving him to his permanent home the 24, where he will live happily ever after. lol

Hmmm, your last sentence sure makes it seem that you think it is okay to have it in a nano long term, and yes 24g is still a nano.
 
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