Brightwell Salt.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15513949#post15513949 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eggiel



Here are the numbers of the NeoMarine salt when mixed at 1.025sg:

Ion [NSW] [NeoMarine]
Chloride 19,500 19,321
Sulfate 2,711.5 2,711.5
Sodium 10,770 10,770
Magnesium 1,288 1,288
Calcium 413 413
Potassium 398.8 398.8
Bromide 67 67
Strontium 7.625 7.625
Boron 4.5 4.5
Fluoride 1.3 1.3
Alkalinity ~7.5dkh
pH 8.30


We know. That's what this discussion is about. :confused:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15513786#post15513786 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Methamphetareef
Can anyone else verify the high alk reading I am getting (11 Dkh)?

I like the other parameters except Alk


Thanks!!!!!!

What salinty you use ?

53.ms solution is 1.026

Thats why you could have the high alk well thats if you salinty in 1.026 and not 1.025
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15513972#post15513972 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eggiel


53.ms solution is 1.026

Thats why you could have the high alk well thats if you salinty in 1.026 and not 1.025


Nevermind..
 
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Iam just speaking of pinpoint solution wich i think is what he refers to

Oh my bad your talking refrative index Iam speaking gravity
so iam not off i guess donig two things at the time doesnt let me think well
 
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Forget the refractive index. 53mS reads exactly 1.0264 or 35 ppt on a refractometer. That's all we need to be concerned with except for maybe temperature which does not change the value much in our case.

As far as Brightwells claims, they are trying to sell a new salt in a tough market. Give em a break.

egg, I have used every salt listed in my salt study in the last year and a half. I just did not throw this stuff away. My fish do not seem to mind and unless you missed it, I do not have any corals.

I can tell you as of right now, the two most popular salt mixes in the USA are Reef Crystals and Instant Ocean by a large margin.

There is nothing wrong with the others. I've long said, most synthetic sea salts on the market today are ok to use.

You all can use what you want to use. Whatever makes your tank look good and husbandry practices easier to deal with.

There is no best salt mix. Only the best for YOUR tank.

If you must know, I like Reef Crystals and Coralife. I've had great luck with both. :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15514116#post15514116 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Billybeau1
Forget the refractive index. 53mS reads exactly 1.0264 or 35 ppt on a refractometer. That's all we need to be concerned with except for maybe temperature which does not change the value much in our case.

As far as Brightwells claims, they are trying to sell a new salt in a tough market. Give em a break.

egg, I have used every salt listed in my salt study in the last year and a half. I just did not throw this stuff away. My fish do not seem to mind and unless you missed it, I do not have any corals.

I can tell you as of right now, the two most popular salt mixes in the USA are Reef Crystals and Instant Ocean by a large margin.

There is nothing wrong with the others. I've long said, most synthetic sea salts on the market today are ok to use.

You all can use what you want to use. Whatever makes your tank look good and husbandry practices easier to deal with.

There is no best salt mix. Only the best for YOUR tank.

If you must know, I like Reef Crystals and Coralife. I've had great luck with both. :D

Hi bill
I didnt miss it its on you dicrption on the bootom with all that type of fish i know you dont have corals wich i wont even bother getting salts caus ethere is not much to worrie

and on the Brightwell salt were not trying to digg him its only that you cant putting parameters equal to NSW on you buckets because with people like Boomer or Highlander and even the Great Randy your not going to get out with it you could tell that to me i dont $hit about composition of salt i just know what my corals look like and what they could like best

If reef crystal or Instant ocean are the most sold it will be more because they are cheap and people dont like to pay much money for salt

But advance acuarist will use the best no matter the price tag
as long as they get stable batches and good parameters and corals look happy
 
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Do they have Corals with that salt cause i know Instant ocean has a high calcium

I consider advance those who try having Corals and a close to NSW tank in there home and dont matter what it cost to get things right
whants to make you put a wet suit and jump in the tank
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15514342#post15514342 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eggiel
Do they have Corals with that salt cause i know Instant ocean has a high calcium

I consider advance those who try having Corals and a close to NSW tank in there home and dont matter what it cost to get things right
whants to make you put a wet suit and jump in the tank

IO actually has low calcium. Probably lowest of the bunch. Yes they both have corals but they both supplement their IO with calcium chloride and magflake to make up for the deficiency.

Here is a picture of Randys tank

reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3491Tank_Photos_Sep_2008_002.jpg

I'm afraid my idea of advanced varies quite a bit from yours.
 
Here is mine

yeiraspictures492.jpg


and filtration

DSC_0070.jpg


Just some frags hoping one day they get to be colonies
 
eggiel


Not to pick on you so don't get mad OK



I didnt miss it its on you dicrption on the bootom with all that type of fish i know you dont have corals wich i wont even bother getting salts caus ethere is not much to worrie

I makes no difference if you have just fish or corals, you are getting bad info

and on the Brightwell salt were not trying to digg him its only that you cant putting parameters equal to NSW on you buckets because with people like Boomer or Highlander and even the Great Randy your not going to get out with it you could tell that to me

True and is why I'm here.

i dont $hit about composition of salt i just know what my corals look like and what they could like best

You have been in this hobby for 9 months which is no time at all when dealing with corals or reef keeping or even just a fish tank.

If reef crystal or Instant ocean are the most sold it will be more because they are cheap and people dont like to pay much money for salt

More coral reef tanks, to include public reef coral aquariums around the would, use IO more than all the other salts combined.

But advance acuarist will use the best no matter the price tag
as long as they get stable batches and good parameters and corals look happy


That is nonsense most of the advanced reefers of the world use IO and RC about 100 to 1. Where are you getting your info from. I have been in this hobby since 1967, so I know many of them. You are buying into marketing hype or people being mislead, just like that BA is putting out. A salt does not make or break a tank it is how the tank is run and maintained.

Go through these month by month and tally up the salt used in these advanced reefers tanks.

Look for Tank of the Month....forgot to post the link and there ae many boards with TOTM like these.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/past.php
 
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Hi Boomer i dont get offended

First this crap thing of the time Iam in the hobby never updates BY IT SELF I thought you knew that beeing in this forum longer then me plus being more time in reefing than others dont make people smart they could be living in errornes there hole life remeber this hobby always improves and some just get stuck on the old habbits

Not meaning that your wrong but you could be wrong in something else than reefing

It makes a diffrent to me cause i like stability and close to NSW I know corals will live buy this cause our intention are to give them there natural habitat . And not natural but close too

Fish will live with what ever swing in salt and temperture I have tested this i got fishes living at 1.030 and doing well


On the Salt it more than a headache trying and getting stabile parameters with IO

I see more Reefers using RC and TMP than IO you could make a a poll your self and we will see

Iv gone on books forum and forum and more forums and and there not a lot using IO with corals

I have seen all the nicest tanks in RC and of top of my mind there is not to many people even saying what salt they use just parameters and thats were I rely on stable parameter a salt that could give us those near to NSW specially for corals

German tanks and polonians tanks are just some of the best and they dont use IO

Even in US some of the modern best tanks around dont use IO more RC than other salts could you show me on of the best with IO

Ive even seen people mixing salt to lower some parameters now is that stupid why not just buy a good salt that you could work your way up than down

Not to Argue and said in a friendly voice with all your respect
Now dont pick on me Boomer
 
I see more Reefers using RC and TMP than IO you could make a a poll your self and we will see

Poll :rolleyes: there are crap loads of polls on salts to include this forum. IO always wins hands down but there has been an increase in TM and RC over that last 2 years.

Iv gone on books forum and forum and more forums and and there not a lot using IO with corals

Well you are flat out wrong. I belong to may forums and visit them daily and run two other chem forums.

German tanks and polonians tanks are just some of the best and they don't use IO

They most certainly do use IO where did you get that they do not use IO ? polonians ? They are not very well known for their reef tanks. There won't be any in the reef book we have coming out. You may want to look at those in Holland, China, Japan, Thailand, Philippines, Belgium, New Zeeland, Australia, Greece etc. etc.

Even in US some of the modern best tanks around dont use IO more RC than other salts could you show me on of the best with IO

You should not try to make that claim as it is a sure sign of post hole digging. Go look at that link I gave you.

Here

RC TOTM last 5 years

Number
>30..........Unidentified
9..............Instant Ocean
7..............Reef Crystals
5..............Tropic Marin
2..............Tropic Marin Pro
2..............Oceanic
2..............Red Sea
1..............Corallife
1..............Catalina Water Company
1..............Seachem
1..............Sera
1..............Preis

And many of those unid are gong to be IO and RC. There are 32 listed salts IO and RC make up 50 % of them. And the reason many do not list the salt, as I said before it is NOT the salt.

Where is your salt ?

IO tank
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15514968#post15514968 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Boomer
and run two other chem forums.

Mind sharing the links to these two forums?

I don't claim to be knowledgeable in Chemistry, but I like learning and will be taking advanced Biology/Chemistry next semester just so I have a better understanding in general, since it's been quite a few years since I took Biology/Chemistry/AP Chemistry in High School.

Assuming I am still in the hobby thereafter, I would like to get into the some sort of entry level Marine Biology/Chemistry class(es).




Thanks Boomer. :rollface:
 
Well boomer yesturday was late and i went to sleep
Today is an other day

Ok first thing whos tank is it ?

Ok on The poll thing we have to be specific on it, something like

What is your coral tank salt using ?

It will generate only a coral tanks users not fish tanks
this is how only IO will Win

what do you mean iam wrong iam in all these forums
RC, Zeovit ,and R2R and now RF
you could find my name in all
and look what I found in RF

There is no poll especificly for salt first of all

just a poll of what to find in a salt and just what I have lay out since my first post everybody looks for consistency

So no its not the salt at least you got that right

All they say its because its cheap

http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27018

common we dont even know if they have coral or not

And Please dont bring the RS poll it will do me a favor
everybody are fish only or its cheap

Boomer one question
Why Iwans zeovit tank never in the TOTM. I personally think it was one of the best tanks and dont uses IO maybe that the reason

http://www.ratemyfishtank.com/photo-main.php?imid=2517

I could feed you more tanks just let me know
:rollface:

Ohh and i got a poll from one forum were Rc wins over IO
I wont post it just to not get bang
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15515250#post15515250 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eggiel
Well boomer yesturday was late and i went to sleep
Today is an other day

Ok first thing whos tank is it ?

Ok on The poll thing we have to be specific on it, something like

What is your coral tank salt using ?

It will generate only a coral tanks users not fish tanks
this is how only IO will Win

what do you mean iam wrong iam in all these forums
RC, Zeovit ,and R2R and now RF
you could find my name in all
and look what I found in RF

There is no poll especificly for salt first of all

just a poll of what to find in a salt and just what I have lay out since my first post everybody looks for consistency

So no its not the salt at least you got that right

All they say its because its cheap

http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27018

common we dont even know if they have coral or not

And Please dont bring the RS poll it will do me a favor
everybody are fish only or its cheap

Boomer one question
Why Iwans zeovit tank never in the TOTM. I personally think it was one of the best tanks and dont uses IO maybe that the reason

http://www.ratemyfishtank.com/photo-main.php?imid=2517

I could feed you more tanks just let me know
:rollface:


Listen, JMO, take this elsewhere. Start a new thread, or whatever. This is mainly the "topic" of discussion of "Brightwell Salt". You're going a little OT. PM Boomer, or whatever. Why one salt's better than another, etc. etc. etc.

Let's try and stay on topic. That's all.
 
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