Brightwell Salt.

[eggiel]

Why didnt you say that to Boomer on first point (scared)
He is giving some information that is not 100% correct on what people uses the most i didnt change the coarse he did

And second we are not off topic we are discussing the salts and what are peolpe looking for in the Brightwells salt and his numbers

Stabilty, Consistency

You even ask for other boards witch was not part of the discusion or had to do with Brightwells salt

So dont blame dude

 

[iFisch]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15515391#post15515391 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eggiel
(scared)

:lol: :lol:

A good portion of this thread is OT, now that I look it over.



"He is giving some information that is not 100% correct on what people uses the most i didnt change the coarse he did "

He mentioned it. Had he not mention it, I would have never asked.

 

[eggiel]

iFisch

Tell me a reason why you want to use Brightwells salt if it only for your 14g tank with 4 fishes any salt will suit you
plus there are cheaper salts than Brightwells

 

[iFisch]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15515526#post15515526 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eggiel
iFisch

Tell me a reason why

Umm because I'm upgrading to a larger tank.............

 

[Methamphetareef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15513876#post15513876 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Billybeau1
What is wrong with 11 dkh ? Nothing as far as I know.

I run Zeovit and target 7 Dkh for Alk. I bought this salt because of its "claimed" 7.5 Dkh

I've tested with Lamotte and Elos and get 11 Dkh.

Guess this will be the last bucket of this salt I buy.

 

[Boomer]

eggiel

You are clueless. RS and RF are reef forums and most on those forums have REEF tanks. You may want to take some time there looking at pic of REEF tanks on those forums. Your problem is you are LOOSING the debate and are trying to find ways to make yourself look correct.

You are not very good at searches are you

now RF
you could find my name in all
and look what I found in RF.There is no poll especificly for salt first of all

Say so you
http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=143

http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=88

http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f...f-salt-amp-why-70362.html?highlight=salt+poll

You want to see more ?



You complain about some reefers not saying what kind of salt they use. Please point out in your link where Iwans gives the salt he is using It has nothing to do with they do not use IO for TOTM. Almost none of those tanks on that link list you gave give the salt they are using. And many Germans do not use a "salt brand" but use the Balling Method, non-NaCl salt where you go buy your own NaCl which makes up 85 % of seawater. Claude Schuhmacher from Fauna Marine uses this method and sells the non-NaCl components.

whos tank is it

It is in the TOTM link I gave you go look the damn thing up

I could feed you more tanks just let me know

Don't' make me laugh you have fed us nothing yet but your hype.

what do you mean iam wrong iam in all these forums
RC, Zeovit ,and R2R

That is two forums other than RC that is not many at all. There are probably a 100 reef forums world wide.

He is giving some information that is not 100% correct on what people uses the most i didnt change the coarse he did

Show me where I'm not.


I will now end this due to iFisch request

 

[serenity]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15516646#post15516646 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Methamphetareef
I run Zeovit and target 7 Dkh for Alk. I bought this salt because of its "claimed" 7.5 Dkh

I've tested with Lamotte and Elos and get 11 Dkh.

Guess this will be the last bucket of this salt I buy.

Well that stinks, I hate to hear the numbers are so high on the Dkh. I could live with ~8 but 11 is way too off the numbers he is giving, makes me wonder what else is "not correct".

Thanks Boomer for your insight, I was going to try the salt but I do not think so. I will think about trying H2Ocean Pro+.

Many thanks everyone.

 

[Boomer]

And your Alk serenity is actually higher than that by about 10 %. Almost all kits are oriented to FW and the kits do not titrate to a pH low enough for SW to get the full Alk, only a Salifert Alk kit does that, as far as I know.

 

[eggiel]

Boomer your are the one loosing the battle and it maybe the last i say
first of all all forums are for fish and corals so dont play dumb

I never cheak in the other forums just the ones you mention first and in the poll section my post is all coulfd find i didnt search more cause all i see are people talking of buying salt cause its cheap

Im not complaining your just saying every nice tank around uses IO and asking you to prove it
Wich i havent seen proof yet

I dont have to be on all the dam forums around just to know what salts is best for me

Were your not correct telling everyboday IO is the best come on man peolple have use it and its not the best for everybody

and what you have fed cause all I see is crap i could get bunch of pics and just say they are using what ever I want

It doesnt prove nothing

Irwin never said what salt his using cause they never gave him a chance to explain his system

And last Boomer do you got a reef tank cause i will like to see it
i got my own that back what iam talking about lets see yours

i had never said that what salt is better iam just saying a stable or consistent salt with good parameters are dificult to get and i have found one and its called Reefers Best Salt

But then you come and say Iam paying a pricey salt wich doesnt need to be pay for come on Boomer give me a break you are Joke

Oh and you forgot to mention or look into this forum

http://www.reef2reef.com/forums/f16/poll-112-a.html

I guess I cant get bang either if you could post links to other forums

and lets leave it here end of it

 

[eggiel]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15516646#post15516646 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Methamphetareef
I run Zeovit and target 7 Dkh for Alk. I bought this salt because of its "claimed" 7.5 Dkh

I've tested with Lamotte and Elos and get 11 Dkh.

Guess this will be the last bucket of this salt I buy.

And now to help other hey Methamphetareef

What salinty did you make the mix at ?

 

[janes_mw]

I guess i have to say a couple things. one reason Boomer is well"sought after" is because of many reasons:
1. He is well written/published.
2. He does not have any hidden agendas other than what he believes the truth.
3. He is an industry expert at the hobby.
4. He is not on anybody's payroll, so some may not like his opinion from the pure technical subject matter expert (like it or not).
5. He does not need to prove his self.

I re-read all the posts on the matter. Boomer is simply stating that BW is overstating their label, nothing more. I have used a bunch of different salts and had mixed results except for one (and most people have never used this brand).

A few pages back, I asked for Boomers opinion, I got it and respected it ..... don't post on these forems asking for advise and when you get something contrary to what you believe dispute it.... take is as another data point. The law of averages still applies to this world and this hobby.... that is the message Boomer is trying to get across.

mike

 

[eggiel]

Yeah I respect Boomers opinion on the brighwells salt

I just dont understand how could he tell me personally that iam paying an over price salt if it given me the best results and worrie if it doesnt mix right
I know he is a respective person but you cant always tell people that your draining your money if you dont know why the persons is likeing it

And you cant point out whats best cause maybe it wont even work for everybody
Or saying this nice TOTM is using this salt when he doesnt even mention the salt
It could be good but what worries the people have to go thru to make it a good salt batch by batch

I have always say stability is the key for a good salt and consistency How many times do i have to spell it out if it was what ever brand i will be backing them no matter what

Also we cant batch brightwells salt yet cause the alk was high i Know that boomer pointed out the label is stupid but maybe the guy who tested got the wrong salinity
and that could be a reson why the alk is high

How many of you guys shake the hole bucket of salt to mix equal the elements

I know not a bunch of guys dont do it and equals to bad mixes of difrent concetrations also at the wrong salinty it gives you wrong parameters

 

[Methamphetareef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15518757#post15518757 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eggiel
And now to help other hey Methamphetareef

What salinty did you make the mix at ?

I posted Salinity and other parameters in my previous post.

Salt was mixed to 53.0 Ms using salinity probe calibrated with Pinpoint fluid.

All parameters I tested other than alk tested ok.

 

[eggiel]

First thing thats the solution to calibrate you refractometer or pinpoint salinity meter

That equals to 1.026

Brightwell says that his salt has to be mix to 1.025 to obtain the coorect parameters
That could be the reson why your alk is high
even do it will make you other parameters go a little lower

Mix the box or bucket around to you think it has mix correctly
and make an other mix see what it reads

 

[Methamphetareef]

I am quite aware that 53 Ms equals 1.026


The difference of 0.001 SG should not make ALK increase from the "claimed" 7.5 Dkh to 11 Dkh

It would be nice to hear from others who have actually mixed/tested this salt.

 

[janes_mw]

I claim no expertise in this, but I have noticed a Kh reading of up to 3 (lower) after 3 days of mix being stirred by a powerhead. if your testing immediately after mixiing, I have experienced a high Kh reading. I can seriously get a diff reading of - 3 Kh after 3-4 days of strong mixing. Not sure what it means, but again, observation.

 

[janes_mw]

oh .... at 1.026 or 1.025. same reaction, just adjusted for salt content of course.

 

[eggiel]

Methamphetareef

But if you didnt mix the batch well it could give you more

Dude just try Iam just helping you out here there is not a lot of people with that salt mix in there hands right know

I dont know in Alk but
In calcium it could go from 430 to 450-460 ppm and thats a lot for me

 

[Methamphetareef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15519266#post15519266 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by janes_mw
I claim no expertise in this, but I have noticed a Kh reading of up to 3 (lower) after 3 days of mix being stirred by a powerhead. if your testing immediately after mixiing, I have experienced a high Kh reading. I can seriously get a diff reading of - 3 Kh after 3-4 days of strong mixing. Not sure what it means, but again, observation.

I am mixing up another 25 gallons. I'm going to let it set for a couple days after mixing before testing as you suggested.

I'll post back my results.

 

[janes_mw]

where you at in Michigan? I am in Caledonia (close to GR)? - mike