Brooklynella, Cupramine & Quick Cure

Itchy Trigger said:
Well, unfortunately two of the fish have died (flasher wrasse after the first dip, gramma after the second dip). The others look fine and show no sign of Brook on them. Should I continue dipping and tank transfers with the remaining fish? I'm guessing that I should, as if I don't completely eradicate the Brook, it'll show up on the other fish and kill them. What a drag!
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Yes, it sucks. Both the disease and the treatment can kill them. Your dosage may be off double check how much and how long your dosing. Be sure to aerate while dipping also. Don't stop, still need to do a few before its all gone.
 
Ok will keep going. I'm dipping in a 2g bucket filled up with water from the QT. 2ml of quick cure with two air stones in the bucket. The dips have been 40-45 min. Fish always seem fine while in the dip.
 
Sorry about your losses. Yes, continue doing dips. Like I said before I did a total of 5 dips. You could do 3 dips and watch them to see if they've kicked it. I did that and my fish had not so I started over. You can either lower the dosage or shorten the time if the fish seem excessively stressed (I know...judgement call). If they hide for more than 12 hrs or don't eat within a few hrs then I would alter the treatment lest the cure kill.
And like DasCamel said aerate during the dip as well. Aeration is critical to this process.
 
Hard to say. All seemed to handle the dip ok. Went just 30 min today. Firefish looks a little sluggish and didn't eat, but others look good and ate just now. Thanks for asking. :-)
 
One of the fish - a green chromis - seems to have developed a secondary bacterial infection. He's got blood splotches on his side and a frayed, deteriorating tail now. He's still eating but clearly this does not bode well for him. I don't think I want to add an antibiotic to the mix as well, as these guys are stressed enough. Chromis may have to be another sacrifice. At this point I'm just hoping not to lose all the fish. What a shame. Just observing today. Tomorrow will be dip #4...
 
Itchy Trigger said:
One of the fish - a green chromis - seems to have developed a secondary bacterial infection. He's got blood splotches on his side and a frayed, deteriorating tail now. He's still eating but clearly this does not bode well for him. I don't think I want to add an antibiotic to the mix as well, as these guys are stressed enough. Chromis may have to be another sacrifice. At this point I'm just hoping not to lose all the fish. What a shame. Just observing today. Tomorrow will be dip #4...
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Hang in there. Very resource intensive. Consider every fish saved a victory, probably will lose a few. Can you separate out the chromi?
 
DasCamel said:
Hang in there. Very resource intensive. Consider every fish saved a victory, probably will lose a few. Can you separate out the chromi?
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Thanks. I guess I could put the chromis in a bucket with an airstone. Would you treat him with an antibiotic in addition to all these dips though? My feeling is leave him in with the other guys for now and if he survives the final dip, then separate once the last tank transfer is complete and treat with something like tetracycline or erythromycin at that point.
 
Treatment is complete. Just took fish out of the final dip. Survivors were blue head tilefish, purple firefish, starry blenny and tiger goby. Casualties were yellowfin flasher wrasse, royal gramma and green chromis.

The survivors are back in their quarantine tanks and look ok... One thing I just noticed though, and perhaps (hopefully) it's nothing... On the dorsal fin of the tilefish, I see what looks like a small, practically clear oval shape, perhaps 2 mm long. The fish has just gone through 5 Quick Cure dips, so I can't imagine it would still have parasites or flukes or anything still on it, but could this be anything to worry about? As if I haven't had enough already...
 
Sorry about the guys you lost. Brook can be rather hard to cure especially if it's not caught on time and it's hard to know where each of the fish were in the course of the disease.
That spot could be a dead fluke. Flukes attach themselves by hooks that dig into the fish's flesh and are designed not to come loose.
 
Well, at least I saved more than half of them! Thanks in large part to advice from you two.

A dead fluke I can handle! You don't think there's much chance of a fluke surviving five 30-45 minute dips in Quick Cure, do you?
 
Well, my DT has been fallow for 6 weeks already (ich). These fish came down with brook in quarantine (suspect it came in with the wrasse and gramma). I was planning to let the DT go another 4 weeks without fish (10 total), and figured I would use that time to observe these guys in quarantine as they recover from this treatment. So I guess I was just asking if 4 weeks was enough to be sure these guys aren't still sick.
 
Just a quick update... Blenny and tilefish looking good and eating like pigs. The spot on the tilefish's dorsal fin has begun to discolor and sluff off, which makes me think you were probably right - dead fluke, that is now starting to decompose... Firefish, however, is no longer eating. He'll take a piece of mysis shrimp and spit it out, over and over again, but ends up not really consuming anything. I also noticed a stringy white poop coming out of him just now. Could it be that he's just recovering from the whole treatment and may just need a little time to get his appetite back? Or does he have something else going on?
 
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