Brute Trash Can and RO/SW

[mwilliams62]

I love Oscar the grouch.. Kind of reminds me of "me" at times... LOL

 

[worm5406]

NSF stamp for food contact. I do not believe they test for phosphates. When it comes to humans and food phosphates are not something that is a dietary concern nor a item that is tested.

When it comes to the water we use phosphates matter.

SO... yes the NSF and FDA might approve for usage these containers for food and food preparation. They are approving it for human food.

As with all items we should rinse/clean them as appropriate. Lack of proper preparation can neseciate higher tested levels due to natural process or other means.

All I was trying to do is either disprove or prove that these cans are either safe or not safe. Hense a hypothesis to start out a simple test. Granted we all do not test the same, we do not all clean the same, and we do not even have the same water or bacteria in our houses.

Fortunately there is a division of NOAA called the National Marine Fisheries Service http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/aboutus/aboutus.html

There are also labs throughout the US providing research for marine fisheries and protection of these resources.

Yes this is a Department of Commerce department and subject to sequestration just like the rest of the government at this time.

Has anyone asked a general question toward this group that has many phD's and other acronyms behind their name?

Most people think of this group just for fisheries (the process of fishing.)

Just as the government allows/restricts certain types of fish to be imported into the US due to the invasive nature. These departments are also dedicated to the protection of these fish.

 

[sirreal63]

Granted we all do not test the same, we do not all clean the same, and we do not even have the same water or bacteria in our houses.

Hence the problem and the impossibility of drawing conclusions that are worth anything. If we rely on the people with the PHD's, the plastics engineers who have spoken on this topic (who are also reefers) and such and the many years of experience of the people here, then it is pretty easy to see that these containers cause no problems. I think it would be great to have the data you want, but the reality is we will not, or at least not accurate and repeatable data. GiGo is still a problem.

 

[kupadupapupa]

I've been using 2 of the black 30 something gallon ones from Wal-Mart for the past 5 years with no ill effects. I tested the phosphates in the salt mixing container after the water has been sitting in the container for 2 weeks and it was undetectable.

 

[worm5406]

I understand. I guess I am trying to show people the definite answer on the testing results of these containers.

GIGO... Yeah I get that daily, just trying to weed it out.

Thanks for your support on this little fact finding mission. I mean it is not as if we do not test anyway, right?

 

[worm5406]

In another aspect of things that are not always safe for our tanks:

"ceramic magnet" is a very generic term used to describe any number of compounds used to create a magnet. There are certainly some compounds that are "salt water safe", but many that are not. Just buying a "ceramic magnet" does not guarantee that it is going to be safe. To that end, you will find that even some of the pumps and other products sold to this hobby over the years have not been "reef safe".