Bryopsis Pennata

konrakva

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Since I have been using RC to gather a lot of very good information, I would like to share some observations about my battle with bryopsis.
Some months ago I got hold of some live rock and one of them developed a patch of those nice green algae. When it began to spread I became aware of the kind of trouble this algae could mean to me, and I suddenly needed to know everything about it. To find a good id was a bit problematic since there are similarities among several species of bryopsis. But I ended up with pennata.
The magnesium way of solving the problem seemed a bit like a walk in the fog. You could arrive home safely but did not really know how, or you could walk of a cliff. Elevated magnesium could work, and kent tech-m would work, but then not always.

I think the most important thing is to know your enemy. You have to be very sure what kind of algae you got. There are 122 species of bryopsis, and if you dont even know if it is bryopsis or not, well.... Bryopsis pennata have a seasonal growth and die-off in nature. Its not just sea hares and a few specialized creatures that controls it there. It could be a lot of things. Bacteria, virus, lack of nutrients or trace elements. Pennata grows best near sewage pipes and estaurine areas of low salinity, but do also exist in clean seawater of full salinity. Bryopsis plumosa on the other hand is very similar but have other preferences

Since the content list of tech-m just seemed to me like saltwater with magnesium and since I know pennata dont like high salinity, I wanted to try to elevate my salinity from 1.025 to 1.028. Some corals could get problems when salinity hits 1.0285 I read somewhere, and thats why i first had to test my hydrometer with a known salinity of 1.025. Then I increased salinity with natural seawater over the next 14 days. When I passed 1.027 the growth accelerated but then stopped completely when I got 1.028 and I slowed down my further increase.
Then nothing happened for a week until it suddenly began to fade away in patches. The level was 1.0283 and I stopped increasing salinity. The algae changed, it was pale but began to grow irregular long hairy extensions at the tips. Microscopi and a search make me think this is the algaes last effort to move to a better place. Bryopsis is now, one month later, almost completely gone and the remainig strings are pale and not growing.

My tankwater magnesium was 1300 ppm when i stopped, and my natural seawater mag is about 1220 ppm. I did my rutine waterchanges the whole time. My hard corals ( mostly montipora species) did ine, and invertebrates was unaffected. Only a colt seemed unhappy and was removed.
Could it just be that consentrated seawater with all its minerals and trace elements make bryopsis pennata disappear?

If you increase mag levels and dont dilute the salt, salinity will rise by 0.0003 sg for each 100 ppm boost of magnesium. If you start at 1.025 and 1200 ppm mag, you will end up with 1.0262 and 1600 ppm mag. Not enough to explain my limit of 1.0283. But if your salinity meter are wrong ( two of mine was reading 1.027 and 1.028 at 1.025 ) it will push you over the limit. Or maybe the tech-m has a bit more consentrated solution of the elements of normal seawater? Will the algae show up again when I lower my salinity in a month or two?

I guess only time will tell.
 
Asumming the sea water your using is coming from an unpolluted area, then your increase in salinity would not raise the heavy metal content in your tank. This would then indicate that the Bryopsis is somehow affected by higher salinity levels rather then heavy metal increases like may happen using Tech M. I did do some searching and found some old references to higher salinity affecting some species of algae and not affecting others as much. Keep us posted on your results as they progress. :)
 
An update...
The bryopsis pennata is now completely gone as far as I can see, and its hard to find any remains of it in the tank. I have been doing my rutine waterchanges wiht clean NSW collected by the coast. My salinity is still 1.028 and I will now make it drift back to a more normal level. There have been no ill effects of anything other than the algae.

Have anyone of you had a similar experience?
 
That's an interesting experiment. Thanks for the information! I haven't heard of anyone else trying that.
 
very interesting read. I battled it in a former tank for about 6 months. I used the tech M and almost had it under control. due to some unforseen issues I had to stop and when I restarted using the tech M again, it was as if the Bryopsis had developed an immunity to it. It wouldnt budge.
In the end I ended up shutting the system down, cooking the rock and started all over again.
 
Even using the Tech M I had issues irradicating it all together. I was able to get it to a minimum and then use a chisel to crack it off the pieces of rock that it was on. I found that in places it had a root system that extemed into the rock a couple of inches. A real PIA for sure.
 
very interesting, please keep us updated as your salinity lowers back to normal levels again, thanks for posting

I noticed you mentioned sea hares controlling Bryopsis in the wild, I wonder if anyone has tried one in their aquarium
 
An update...

I wanted to make sure that the the success I had with making life hard for bryopsis was not related to removal of nutrients, so I turned off my skimmer and connected the tank to another tank with lower salinity and a bit of nutrients.

And things happened. The salinity fell to 1.027. There was a lot of different algae popping out everywhere: derbesia, valonia macrophysa, chaeto, boodlea, cladophoropsis, phormidium, caulerpa nummularia. (Some of these I did not even know I had in my system.) And Bryopsis of course.

At first it did seem like a nutrient related solution, Then I increased the salinity to about 1.0283 while I still operated the tank skimmerless and with a bit more nutrient than I would otherwise. The variety of algae did fine but the bryopsis did not grow. And after a while started to retreat from the spots in the tank.

This is just my observations and not a scientific cure and I still think raising salinity has its drawbacks, but I feel now that salinity might have an effect on the algae bryopsis pennata in specific. At least now I do not fear this algae as the evil of all algae.
 
Thanks Konrad, interesting read.
Is the dark green color of plumosa vs paler green fo pennata the way you tell them apart? I couldn't find much information on plumosa preferences. I've had what I think was plumosa in the past. Lower NO3 and PO4 seem to limit it to almost nothing. I keep sg around 1.0264. I still get a few strands here and there from time to time though and don't know which type they are.
 
I raised my salinity to 1.030 and noticed the bryopsis starting to die off, however I lost a large clam I had for 3 years and a few LPS, so I lowered it to 1.026, things have stabilized but the bryopsis is holding steady, maybe very slowly dying off. I'm going to slowly raise it a little. I have no idea what type of bryopsis I have nor how to tell them apart.
 
Tech M has about 17 trace elements in ionic form outside of magnesium, chloride, sulfate and sodium, including copper.

Deionized water containing the following elements (as ions): magnesium, chlorine, sulfur, calcium, potassium, bromine, strontium, boron, fluorine, lithium, rubidium, iodine, iron, molybdenum, zinc, nickel, copper, manganese, vanadium, cesium, cobalt, tungsten, selenium, and chromium.
 
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Following along. I have bryopsis. I put a couple of rocks with it on it in a bucket and dosed tech m. I
It's been about 2 weeks and so far no change.

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Used The Kent M method, and it worked. To bad it does not seem to work for everyone. I let my mag drop back down and still no sign of it /knock on wood
 
Following along. I have bryopsis. I put a couple of rocks with it on it in a bucket and dosed tech m. I
It's been about 2 weeks and so far no change.

What magnesium levels are you maintaining the water in? Simply "dosing" Tech M will do nothing......the success depends on what level you raise the mag to with Tech M and how long you maintain it.
 
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