Build Thread?

zlwags85

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Hello!

My name is Zach and I am an accountant in Central Illinois. I just thought I would introduce myself and see if there is any demand for another build thread. It will be a long, drawn out build, but I could definitely use a lot of advice and suggestions. I just bought a condo recently, which is more like a duplex, and will be finishing the basement with the fish tank in mind.

I had a small tank (29 gallon) a few years back while I was still in college and just loved the hobby. I did not have all of the time or money that this hobby requires to set up a system that was truly beautiful. However, the smaller tank did prepare me for a large tank. I learned a ton and will understand how to minimize/avoid the hair algae and aiptasia that plagued my first tank. Enough about me… lets get a few pictures! (I will have to get more detailed pictures eventually, but these should at least wet your appetite hopefully)

The tank is 300 gallons and measures 8’ X 30” X 24” Tall. It is an acrylic tank with the back piece being a blue piece of acrylic. The canopy and stand are furniture grade oak. Also in this picture is the skimmer. It is a Lifereef skimmer that stands 72” tall. I put an “Ice Mountain” bottle of water in the picture, along with a CO2 tank, for a size reference.

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Lifereef also made the sump and it measures 60” X 18” X 18”. I will get better detail shots of this later.

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Here is a picture of the proposed design for the basement which has passed the fiancés approval.

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Here is an actual picture of this half of the basement. I have several questions about this part of the build, but I will wait to ask until a couple people at least show interest.

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I purchased this tank on Craigslist and the tank has never been setup. With the purchase, the fellow hobbyist through in a little giant 3x and 4x pump, 7-8 bags of mixed aragonite sand, a bucket and half of IO salt, CO2 tank, tons of plumbing, and all the float switches and canisters for the sump/refugium. I am pretty sure I got a sweet deal.

I know these pictures are not the greatest, but they give you an idea of the setup and future plans. The pictures were take with a Nikon D60 which I am still working out all the functionality on. The fish room will probably end up being slightly smaller than the plan depicts per the fiancés request. At least the entire area under the stairs can be incorporated into the setup.

Anyways, just a start! Thanks for looking and I look forward to documenting this and getting some great feedback and suggestions.

Regards,

-Zach
 
I forgot to mention that I have tested the tank for leaks. The picture above is with water in the tank. I filled it up with tap water and let it sit for 10 days before emptying it so that I could move it. Thanks again for looking!

-zach
 
That is A sweet tank good luck tagging along for the ride. Been building my 265 in wall for a year now so I have lots of patience cant wait to see it running.
 
Sweet tank, congrats!

Everybody here loves tank builds, fire away with any questions you have!

Thanks! I am excited to progress on the basement and then eventually on the fish tank.

Questions:

1. Who feels that an 8’ X 3’ fish room will suffice? Remember that the area under the stairs will be utilized to store water or could be used for just about anything. I want to make sure I have enough room to function, but don’t want to upset the fiancé quite yet…. Too early to start that game….

2. Any suggestions on how to make the canopy more functional? I can’t come close to reaching the bottom of the tank with the canopy on. You can see where it splits in the picture and it is on a piano hinge.

One idea that I have is to basically make it a solid piece with some clips on the inside of the canopy, put some eyeholes on each corner of the tank, and string it up through the rafters and into the fish room onto a small winch so that the entire canopy will lift vertically off the tank. Far fetched? Ideas?

3. Does anyone know if a structural engineer will have to sign off on the project to remove that piece of load bearing wall in the picture? I put a yellow line on the part that will be removed and the remaining part of the wall will be a half wall with a support for a beam.

4. One more question for tonight. When I go to finish the floor underneath the tank, can I use some tile backer and tile under it? Will the tiles support the wait without cracking? I would like to get an idea for what type of flooring I will be putting in for future budgeting/approval.

Thanks for the support! I know I still have a ton to think about on this project and I’m sure many of you will tag along and help out. Thanks!

-Zach
 
build build builld!!!! i think it will be great!


as far as not upsetting the fiance...... from a guy thats been married for 10 years, it actually begins to get fun after a while! the make up is the best part!
 
1 I saw a guys room that was a closet and he fit everything in there like a glove so It can be done but more room the better I always say.

2. I like the pulley setup

3. Load baring I would be careful It might look OK to start but things will sag eventually or worse. Better safe then sorry.

4. if your tiles are going on concrete you dont need backer board just aplly to the exsiting floor.

and I agree with am3gross It gets fun after a while and better do it now while your talking about it then later. this way theres only one argument. Like calling before you come home late why have two fights, just have the one when you walk in late.
 
Like calling before you come home late why have two fights, just have the one when you walk in late.

â€"œ Very valid argument, but there is a case that 2 lesser arguments is less than one big fight.

build build builld!!!! i think it will be great!

- Thanks for the encouragement! I am excited to start working in the basement and get the overall project moving along. In fact, for that matter, we (my mother and myself) made a careless mistake last night while removing a couple studs and I slashed my arm open pretty good on a nail…. I was hoping to get a lot more done but ended up going with the safe plan and getting a Tetna shot and some liquid stitches.


3. Load baring I would be careful It might look OK to start but things will sag eventually or worse. Better safe then sorry.

- Right, my main concern is not choosing a beam that would be suitable, but voiding insurance by not going through the proper approval channels. I have heard/seen mixed reviews on if a job of this magnitude requires a structural engineers signature on the project. I am going to weigh the options and learn more before doing anything to the wall. I am not worried about putting a wood/steel beam in. I would probably go way overkill on the install.


I will try to read all new posts on a daily basis. I might miss some days on the weekends, but will attempt to reply and keep this as current as possible. I will also add as many pics as I can… I know how everyone loves to see the action.

How can I change the thread title? Or, am I stuck with what I have already? Thanks!
 
No one?

I am still trying to figure out if I want to tile under the tank or if I can just go with carpet. I'm not sure how tile would look there for resale.
 
Well, it's been a while since I have put an update in here. Work has been really busy as they have re-alligned all of the work and have laid people off (thus adding additional work). But, I'm just glad to have a job currently!

I have made a lot of progress in the basement. The load-bearing wall wasn't really a big deal. I replaced it with a laminated beam and supported it with about 9 2x4's. It has been in for a couple of months now and hasn't shifted anything. The fish room is also together and I finished tiling in there. It will house 2 44 gallon Brute containers, the skimmer, utility sink, small hospital tank, and hopefully additional goodies in the future like a calc reactor. The wiring is done and I'm getting ready for drywall.

If anyone has any ideas how much drywall should cost, that would be great. I posted this queestion in the lounge. There are about 2,000 sq ft of drywall to be installed (65 sheets about). The quote I got was for 4,000 which includes delivery, hanging, and finishing it all. Anyways, here are some pics!

From the bar room facing the living area (fish room)
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Where the tank will sit.
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From the fish room facing the bar area
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Bathroom
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Hallway to bedroom
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Guest bedroom
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Closet
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Storage area and Tank Shot
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Fish room
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3 of the 4 dedicated 15 amp circuits and skimmer
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Other dedicated line and water setup
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sweet tank. I'd make it in wall if I would start from frames :-)

I considered making it an inwall; however, there were 2 main reassons I didn't.

1. The tank came with the stand and it's in fabulous shape and looks very nice. It would be a shame to not use that as well.

2. I don't plan on living in this house all that long so the resale will be easier. I made the fish room in such a way that I can rip out the water containers, throw in a couple of shelves, and call it a storage area under the stairs without much effort.

But it would look sweet in-wall!
 
What did you decide to do with the canopy? I have been looking for a way to lift it vertically and so far the options have been slim. My idea is to use a low rpm motor with high torque (a winch) to lift the canopy about 2-3'. Best thing I found so far is a winch that goes on a small boat trailer.
 
What did you decide to do with the canopy? I have been looking for a way to lift it vertically and so far the options have been slim. My idea is to use a low rpm motor with high torque (a winch) to lift the canopy about 2-3'. Best thing I found so far is a winch that goes on a small boat trailer.

I bought a actuator rated for 250 lbs from http://www.firgelliauto.com/ I will be buying some kind of heavy duty guide rail from either that site or from lowes/HD depending on the price and quality difference. I had a buddy at work make me a DC power supply... but they can be purchased for 40-50 dollars. The whole setup is going to run me around 200 or so but will be well worth it. I can not lift the canopy by myself and my fiance will not be happy with me asking her to help all the time. I can get pictures of this stuff if you want.

-zach
 
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2. I don't plan on living in this house all that long so the resale will be easier. I made the fish room in such a way that I can rip out the water containers, throw in a couple of shelves, and call it a storage area under the stairs without much effort.

But it would look sweet in-wall! [/B]


u can make it look like u have made it into the wall...useing the stand a the canopy.....but i see what u r talking about.

god job on it all
 
Zach, thanks for the reply the website is great! When you get around to it, I would love to see pics of what you come up with for the canopy.
 
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