butterflies in reefs
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- the fremblii is small. i got it when it's about 2 inches, and now it's about 2.5. very easy to feed. mine eats frozen, flake and pellets. but they are very shy initially.
they also have the problem of always exhibiting their stress colouration. which is an ugly dirty yellow with two white spots. over time if they are comfortable, they will exhibit the striking yellow and blue more often instead of their stress colour.
but overall a gorgeous fish that's easy and peaceful!
- the fremblii is small. i got it when it's about 2 inches, and now it's about 2.5. very easy to feed. mine eats frozen, flake and pellets. but they are very shy initially.
they also have the problem of always exhibiting their stress colouration. which is an ugly dirty yellow with two white spots. over time if they are comfortable, they will exhibit the striking yellow and blue more often instead of their stress colour.
but overall a gorgeous fish that's easy and peaceful!
LemonLemon
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yes it's still showing a little of it's stress colour from the photo.
the little patches of dirty yellow are evident. but it's greedy very greedy.
whenever it has too much to eat and gets too full, it likes to rest for awhile near the bottom and "catch it's breath'. that's when it's at it's ugliest.
but no matter, i love the fremblii. it's one of my favourite relic species from hawaii.
the little patches of dirty yellow are evident. but it's greedy very greedy.
whenever it has too much to eat and gets too full, it likes to rest for awhile near the bottom and "catch it's breath'. that's when it's at it's ugliest.
but no matter, i love the fremblii. it's one of my favourite relic species from hawaii.
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ah nice!
a H. zoster!
looks pretty big. small ones are SUPER rare. i want a small one!
a H. zoster!
looks pretty big. small ones are SUPER rare. i want a small one!
However, if Hemitaurichthys are anything like heniochus in growth, it would have just grown to the size of this current one in a matter of months.
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the only small Hemitaurichthys i ever saw was a 2 inch polylepis.
but it was dying -_- and yes theygrow very fast. 1 inch per month! the 4 in my LFS's display tank grew like weeds.
the saddest i ever felt was a xanthurus x guentheri hybrid which was dying at the LFS. i wrote a RB article on it but alas, that's all the world ever got to see of it.
but it was dying -_- and yes theygrow very fast. 1 inch per month! the 4 in my LFS's display tank grew like weeds.
the saddest i ever felt was a xanthurus x guentheri hybrid which was dying at the LFS. i wrote a RB article on it but alas, that's all the world ever got to see of it.
thanks for the comment lemon... will definitely keep my eye on my new bf... i hope it will be a good citizen...
LemonLemon
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keep it well fed and it should be ok.
no guarantees though. it's always a gamble with butterflies.
no guarantees though. it's always a gamble with butterflies.
LemonLemon
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yes.
in case things turn out badly, you can always trap it out
in case things turn out badly, you can always trap it out
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I'd recommend anyone trying butterflies in reefs should own a good fish trap, and know how to use it
sounds like an opportunity to do a public service "how to use a fishtrap" video.
/hint hint.
sounds like an opportunity to do a public service "how to use a fishtrap" video.
/hint hint.
LOL, there is actually no big secret to it. First of all, I use an actual trap, not a home made plastic bottle trap. Not that there is anything wrong with one of those, it just won't fit in my tank, and the flow would blow it all around the tank. The flow is bad enough with my trap. I usually add a couple magnets to the top of the door to make it fall easier/faster. I use this trap:
http://www.marinedepot.com/Ultralif...ter_Aquariums-Ultralife-UL1511-FIMISC-vi.html
I place food in the trap, and close the door. The fish then try to get at it. Eventually, depending on the fish I want to catch, I open the door to either let that fish in, or if it won't, other fish go in, eat and stir up the food, and some flows out of the trap. Then any remaining fish know there is food there. Eventually, any fish I want to catch goes in.
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this video sucks... :wildone:
to much imagination required... :uzi:
which for me, is like flash on an iPad... :headwally:
where's the magnet go?
Is there a remote control for that thing? Or do you have to hire someone to come stand there and watch it.. then close it when the fish goes in? Cause that seems kind of expensive...
I assume that if you're after a bigger fish, say... oh, a tang... then all the little ones go in and out over and over again, taunting you, while you wait for Mr. Big to show up and take interest?
PS: todays post brought to you by a significantly slow day at work.
The magnets go on either side of the door, at the top. Of course, depending on the size of the magnets, the door will not fully close to some extent. This is only an issue when trying to catch tiny fish.
Your comment about a remote control really goes to the main issue I think people have with traps. It takes PATIENCE!!! Once you start to see the fish go in and out, you have to set yourself up in front of the tank, trap door line in hand, waiting to lower it. No way around that. The funniest part about this is that I hear people moan and groan about the time this takes, yet they will rip apart half their tank trying to catch a fish to make it "faster" :headwally:
Large fish, small fish... makes no difference. Catching more than one fish, so long as you get the target, is OK. If I'm after a smaller fish, I keep the door somewhat closed, to prevent my pig-like tangs from eating all the food.
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resolution on your video still seems a bit low... but I think i get the basic plot of it now...
on a serious note... i've been debating re-homing my two tangs and replacing them with more smaller fish... i'm kind of at bio-load and the two tangs are piggy... I want to replace em with an angel fish a CBB.. but i have a serious question.. (next post)
Thx for the explain... as simple as it sounds, it did help with your clarificaitons...
on a serious note... i've been debating re-homing my two tangs and replacing them with more smaller fish... i'm kind of at bio-load and the two tangs are piggy... I want to replace em with an angel fish a CBB.. but i have a serious question.. (next post)
Thx for the explain... as simple as it sounds, it did help with your clarificaitons...
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Question for those with butterflies...
I believe i read in this thread (geesh I could be wrong) that butterflies and angel fish in general leave healthy happy corals alone, however they target weaker, unhealthy ones readily...
Assuming I wasn't dreaming when i read that...
What about when two corals bump and sting each other... that spot is generally un-healhtly looking... I have an echno eating a digitata at the base... about 2"cubed of digitata is affected... I'm worried that would be attacked give the above pretense...
I'd like to add some kind of pygmy angel (or two) and a CBB (or other butterfly) but am a bit scared...
I believe i read in this thread (geesh I could be wrong) that butterflies and angel fish in general leave healthy happy corals alone, however they target weaker, unhealthy ones readily...
Assuming I wasn't dreaming when i read that...
What about when two corals bump and sting each other... that spot is generally un-healhtly looking... I have an echno eating a digitata at the base... about 2"cubed of digitata is affected... I'm worried that would be attacked give the above pretense...
I'd like to add some kind of pygmy angel (or two) and a CBB (or other butterfly) but am a bit scared...
Good question, and I've said this before. Sure, butterflies, angels often leave healthy corals alone, but who doesn't have an off month once in a while, when the corals suffer. This is when things can get ugly, and why I say that keeping angels and butterflies in reefs is tricky on many levels.
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Just wanted to update this and say that he is now taking food right out of the water column, eating mysis like a pig now:bum: Didn't someone have a contraption they made specifically for these types of BF's out of PVC for feeding? I can't seem to find the pics now. I just got a longnose on DD so I'd like to get something made for them, my Naso can destroy a cube of mysis on his own before the bf can blink:uzi:
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