Can u make a Claim again PG & E?

Short answer, no. You sure can try, but your going to have a hard time convincing them that you had no way of backing up your power. Why would they be responsiable for a car hitting a power poll, etc?
 
a car hitting power poll only last 3 to 4 hours outtage.if it's last longer then 24 hours.it's their responsibility to get up and running within reasonable time.i know a whole bunches of businese make claim again them during the market street blackout and success.gl


lapsan
 
That was different. That was a faulty (read: thier equipment/maintance) transformer that blew up. If something happens to their stuff that they didn't cause by neglect, they're not responsiable, regardless of how long it takes to get back up (reasonable, not weeks). A car hit a pole near my old work, lost power for day and a half. It blew stuff out down the line that took longer to repair. Saying a pole outage should take 3 - 4 hours is a funny thing to say, work for PG&E for long :lol:
 
for what they charge us, and the growth they are trying to push through in the East Bay area (without proper exapnsion of transmission equipment) we should darned well be getting motnhly rebates for the garbage they put us through.
 
By seeing how many trucks it took to respond to a call around here, I gather the ratio of trucks to workers to actual working is like 10 trucks > 22 dudes > of which 2 are working. One is holding the light, the other is taping the connection :lol:
 
I say 5

one holding the new bulb
one holding the ladder
one taking out the old bulb
one installing the new bulb
one turning on the switch to see if it works.
:D
 
i think we're pay the highest rate in the USA.a friend of mine live tracy pay over $800.00 a month for eletricity :eek1: .at this Rate ,we're better came out with a better effiescent equipment or we're longer could afford this hobby any more.




lapsan
 
i remenber i talk to one of the LFS owner at bay area farmer ,he's pay over 1500.00 a month for eletricity.that alot for any retail stores.


lapsan
 
Well I went on a mini-rant in another forum but half of this problem is all the new houses/housing they are building around here (and by "here" I mean every place that's connected to the same grid, ie most of northern CA). You get people whining about the cost of housing, they developers build a buttload of houses, but do they build any sort of infrastructure for that? Nope, there job is the houses, infact if there are always talks of requiring solar panels on new housing and the typical response is "do you want to add $20-30k ontop of the already expensive house?" my short answer is "YES DAMNIT!" PG&E is not wanting to build any more power plants, and the further east you go the more A/C becomes a "requirement" (I'm not even talking about the reef aspect of things), so you have thousands upon thousands of new houses all putting a major load on the grid a great deal of these houses are mostly electric too (driers, heaters & cooking).

So the next time PG&E or anyone else tells me I should conserve power because there's a Stage <whatever> alert I'll them to F'off, cut off power to newer houses first, and after you've gone back through some 60 years of houses then you can even think about asking me to conserve!

</end rant> :)
 
Mike,

Exactly what I was saying, although not as complete or as eloquently as you had :)

How much does it cost to retrofit Solar into an existing house ? and how effective/efficient is it ? I need to give jimsar a ring here and hear his thoughts on the topic :). The wife is now dead set on seriously considering solar (although that might change when she sees the initial cost). We are spending $500 - $600 a month for a house that is not that large (and that is with the hottub disconnected and using the minimum lighting and wattage for our tanks and just about every appliance in the house is Energy Star rated). I do agree that we appear to be the highest charged region in the country (from what every other reefer posts here about their KWH rates).

Anyways... minor rant done... for now ;)
 
So can you make a claim if it's because PG&E equipment can't handle the load and they have to cut off ours power??
 
Solar is not very efficient by any means. I think a panel the size of a sheet of plywood only generates about 200watts, and that's only during clear sunny summer days at 12 noon. and a panel that size is not cheap.. plus the inverters to covert it into AC (even more loss in efficiency)

Too many houses? Tough it up..... you've seen nothing yet, says my bet. Too many houses, cuz there are too many people! uhoh better keep my mouth shut. :lol:

At any rate... it costs lots of money.. but inevitably we're all still in this hobby. I'd say my tank brings me enough enjoyment to be worth the $200 a month or whatever it's costing me.
 
as quoted from Wikipedia "... a 12% efficiency solar cell having 1 m2 of surface area in full sunlight at solar noon at the equator during either the March or September equinox will produce approximately 120 watts of peak power."
 
Well they're building a plant in Palo Alto that's supposedly making way cheaper solar panels (they look like they're a thin film composite as opposed to silicon, but they're hush hush about it so can only speculate on what I saw). Who knows when they'll be available though so don't hold your breath.

Going by numbers I remember, it was something like $500 per 85-100 watt panel (depends upon mfg) and an inverter to get a nice sine wave 60hz output (needed if you're hooking to the grid otherwise PG&E will not like it). And about 30% worth of rebates IIRC, so a 2kW system will cost you about $8.4k to install yourself, not counting mounting etc etc. Of course cost of panels might be higher now, so that'll impact that cost.
 
I was told by my neighbor, a PG&E Exec, that we can make a claim for lost food etc when the failure is in their system. We lost power Saterday night, it was resored Sunday morning and then lost it again Sunday afternoon. I have battery powered airpumps moving the ocean :-) in my two small tanks. So far only a few losses.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7805867#post7805867 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JHipkin
I was told by my neighbor, a PG&E Exec, that we can make a claim for lost food etc when the failure is in their system. We lost power Saterday night, it was resored Sunday morning and then lost it again Sunday afternoon. I have battery powered airpumps moving the ocean :-) in my two small tanks. So far only a few losses.
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yes, food is the only thing they will reimburse you for, but you have to replace it first....and then submit the claim with the original receipts. then wait about 9 months after a 100 phone calls.

they are not obligated to provide power if you read their fine print. they can give you a 24 hour notice and shut down for maintenance for as long as they want. and they are not obligated to provide a generator.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7804749#post7804749 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Elite
I say 5

one holding the new bulb
one holding the ladder
one taking out the old bulb
one installing the new bulb
one turning on the switch to see if it works.
:D
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you forgot the 2 guys directing traffic and the supervisor.
 
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