Carbon tumbling question

There's a few articles from over the past year about it, including a good write up in Coral magazine I'd you have a subscription.
 
suicideissleep said:
I think you were referring to my comment about how the carbon would come out if the filter sock if the flow was to much yes the pantyhose would stop the carbon from tumbling to much and over flowing out of the sock I have done it its a temporary way to run carbon sry I didn't state it clear enough
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I was asking do to your comment and pollabi has helped me In the past with question's and very helpful
 
Hey joe for what it's worth I don't think your panty hose problem was dummer than my alcohol vs soda question lol...just thought I'd add some humor to cheer people up here. Btw Pallobi works late nights bar tending maybe he was just tired and grouchy either way stuff happens take it with a grain of salt bro no biggie. Oh and stop using all of Amanda's panty hoses in your sump and buy her a new fish for that lmao! Stay positive people
 
Lol yea you bartend deal with drunks and then comes deals with us lol just means he loves us if he takes it out on us :) my wife does this to me lmao
 
swannyson7 said:
Agreed, the panty hose would work. It would probably be better than just dumping it in the filter sock because it would reduce clogging in the filter sock and it would allow you to remove it in order to swap out or rinse the filter socks and could easily be returned if it isn't exhausted yet. The only thing to worry about is the rate of flow going through your drain line. Carbon shouldn't be tumbled because it breaks apart and carbon particles in your water column has been tied to HLLE. I'd imagine that the high flow rate in a drain line might break the carbon down rather quickly, resulting in the same problems. If you don't want to get a reactor, I'd think that putting it in a filter bag (or panty hose) between your baffles of your sump would work better. It would still have a decent amount of water volume flowing through it, but wouldn't have the forceful splashing found inside the filter socks.
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I recently just took the dive into carbon and gfo and spent some time reading up on how to run the medias. Together, each in a reactor, etc.. After much reading, it seems the gfo needs to be tumbled in a reactor, and the carbon should not be. The only reason you slightly tumble the gfo is to keep it from clumping- does not work any better by tumbling. In addition, running together in reactor is a waste as carbon exhausts quicker than the gfo (1 week for carbon, and 1 month for gfo give or take). So I run the gfo in the reactor, and bought reusable filter bags (yes like pantyhose) and run the carbon between the baffles of my sump so I can change out each week- 1 tbs per 10 gallons. the only thing I would worry about on the pantyhose is dyes or the likes in the fibers.
 
Since this sewing circle has decided to continue on about me I've noticed as this is the first time I've checked this thread since my only post, I'm curious what was so horribly sarcastic about my comment?

I'm very curious what was so rude or untactful as someone put it, about my one word question? These message boards give no sense of tone to what anyone is saying... There has been a few other terrible posts here lately and you guys are Comin at my one word comment?

And yes, as Rjmurd put it, I've made mistakes here in the past, but I guess everything I say is still looked at cynically... That's too bad, becuase I have a lot of experience that could help many...

the only other time I said something cynical lately is when someone tried to sell interceptor here on RC, on our forum, right after it was clearly stated it was ILLEGAL to do so ( even though some of you seemdd to have thought my words were towards mike, which was not the case)... Yea, I guess I was in the wrong about that too huh guys???

Jus to be clear, and I am a paid member... If you don't like it, talk to the BoD and have them revoke my membership or not allow me to renew at the end of the month... that should help the situation that you all seem so unhappy about with me... Sorry I'm not the politically correct friendly aquarium neighbor who tells you all everything you wana hear... I'm a realist, and I believe in doin things the right way and not in band aid fixes which really a lot times only create more problems...

And also to note, since so many of you think I'm such an awful dude, I could list the dozens of people I've helped here, given away or sold very cheap the numerous corals, fish, equipment, time and help I've given everybody.... But hey, why bother, I'm jus a big jerk right? According to all of you anyway... Which is funny, cuz I was getting text messages and Pm's not too long ago for me to vote for people and help their cause with the new bod election, but now I'm jus a jerk or however you guys wana put it??

Sorry I tell it like it is... I guess I shoulda never of joined this club becuSe I encourage folks to do things the best way possible and not cut corners and half a$$ everything... Shame on me...

Oh, and I hope the underwear help :beer:
 
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i believe the point was that while you do seem to be well versed in reefing instead of offering that assistance or just staying out of it your post appears to slight the OP, which in my personal opinion you do frequently.

not everyone here is not the reefer you are, some people are just starting or have questions.
 
In all seriousness, Neal knows his stuff and is merely trying to promote the correct way to do things. He may not go about it in the friendliest way sometimes, but I can understand his frustration to an extent when the same questions are asked over and over. Not bashing the OP in any way... after all, that's the beauty of the CTARS forum. You can ask a question and get an answer relatively quick regardless of how many times it's been asked or how "dumb" some people may find it. Chances are if you're wondering about something, so are others even if they don't ask. That being said... I fall back on my well known outlook. It's a hobby and this is a freakin' fish club... leave your attitudes at the door. If it's not fun, then it's time for a new hobby. And let's not forget the golden rule!
 
Lol, no worries dude... All honesty, if I didn't see my screen name up there a ten times since my last post, I wouldn't have even bothered... I'm overzelous, I'm well aware, but what I don't do, is mislead folks, give bad advice, nor am I an advocate for a band aid job...

To the Op, find someone with a cheap, but functional reactor, and you will be 100 times better off than your pantyhose media bag getting beat up by you ur drain line... That's a good way for your carbon to get broke down and not function properly... Tumble being the key word, not gettin beat up by vigorously draining water...
 
New here, but read allot. Pallobi is one of the reefers I always look for when reading within these pages among others. I also disregard any negative comments by anyone. I would assume 90% of us are 25 and older. We are all adults and big boys and girls so let the sarcasm and comments fly, as well as your much needed experience. Again, just one mans opinion.
 
Tweaked said:
I recently just took the dive into carbon and gfo and spent some time reading up on how to run the medias. Together, each in a reactor, etc.. After much reading, it seems the gfo needs to be tumbled in a reactor, and the carbon should not be. The only reason you slightly tumble the gfo is to keep it from clumping- does not work any better by tumbling. In addition, running together in reactor is a waste as carbon exhausts quicker than the gfo (1 week for carbon, and 1 month for gfo give or take). So I run the gfo in the reactor, and bought reusable filter bags (yes like pantyhose) and run the carbon between the baffles of my sump so I can change out each week- 1 tbs per 10 gallons. the only thing I would worry about on the pantyhose is dyes or the likes in the fibers.
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I found when you run Gfo in its own reactor and its the brs cheap Gfo if you let it tumble at all it lets dust into your system 24/7 even letting it tumble just a little if I mix it with carbon I don't have a problem it's alot better and gavnt had a problem sence
 
swannyson7 said:
In all seriousness, Neal knows his stuff and is merely trying to promote the correct way to do things. He may not go about it in the friendliest way sometimes, but I can understand his frustration to an extent when the same questions are asked over and over. Not bashing the OP in any way... after all, that's the beauty of the CTARS forum. You can ask a question and get an answer relatively quick regardless of how many times it's been asked or how "dumb" some people may find it. Chances are if you're wondering about something, so are others even if they don't ask. That being said... I fall back on my well known outlook. It's a hobby and this is a freakin' fish club... leave your attitudes at the door. If it's not fun, then it's time for a new hobby. And let's not forget the golden rule!
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Yes, use the search feature. It rocks!:thumbsup:
 
suicideissleep said:
I found when you run Gfo in its own reactor and its the brs cheap Gfo if you let it tumble at all it lets dust into your system 24/7 even letting it tumble just a little if I mix it with carbon I don't have a problem it's alot better and gavnt had a problem sence
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Hmm. Any others on this issue. I know it's releasing a little, but I am seeing crystal clear water after a week of use. I was directed to drop the carbon in a bag, and run gfo by itself. The tumble is an over statement as its barely moving on the top when I look into the canister.
 
Carbon shouldn't be tumbling at all, if possible ( a tough accomplishment if you're using fine media like ROX 0.8). However, if it's not tumbling violently, it shouldn't really be a problem.
 
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