Centerpiece Fish

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Here was my 65 2 months ago it has filled in alot since and the photos is poor. However it contains a bartlett anthia (you said u wanted anthias), i chose him because they are one of the smaller and hardier ones, he is out 95% of the time.
And people suggested a Marine Betta, i have one of those as well and he is my centerpiece...prior research reveals they hide alot, mine is out about 60% of the time (the time when theres no food being offered) and he is spectacular that pic does not do him justice. he still eats guppies but i do have him eating mysis (hes just slow to get the mysis).
 
Would having a 20g sump/fuge' help me keep the watanabei angel better/ let me be able to comfortably house one?
What about keeping the bioload lower?
thanks
 
How about a lamarks angel?
My rusty angel, i've seen try a mushroom and spit it out, haven't seen it nip anything i didn't put in the tank as food since.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6569122#post6569122 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by burton61775
Thats also a 100 dollar fish :D ALthough i was going to get one but when i ask a LFS to see how much they get for and thier supplier said it was out of season, can that be?
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Flame wrasses can be caught any time of the year (if that's the fish you're talking about).

Maybe the guy just doesn't take orders in the winter or something.
 
The one on the top is a bi color angel. That is the fish that I had to completely tear my tank down to get to. I can't speak of the other fish in the pic but my experience with that angel has NOT been a good one. Just be careful and ask yourself this, Do I have nothing else to do today but take all my rocks out of my tank and hope that I don't kill any of my coral or freak out any other fish. And if the answer is yes, then by all means get an angel fish and hope for the best.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6581728#post6581728 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fuzz1974
The one on the top is a bi color angel. That is the fish that I had to completely tear my tank down to get to. I can't speak of the other fish in the pic but my experience with that angel has NOT been a good one. Just be careful and ask yourself this, Do I have nothing else to do today but take all my rocks out of my tank and hope that I don't kill any of my coral or freak out any other fish. And if the answer is yes, then by all means get an angel fish and hope for the best.
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The bicolor is probably least reef-safe of the Centropyges IMHO.

Razzagas - Since you are just setting up your reef & you stated that you want the fish to be reef safe for most corals, one option is you could choose a dwarf angel and as you add corals return any of the ones he eats to LFS. You mentioned you want the fish to be large... a mature angel can be 4 in long which considering their body shape actually is quite a big fish. A pair of dwarf angels in my opinion, at least , makes quite a nice centerpiece also.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6581728#post6581728 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fuzz1974
The one on the top is a bi color angel.
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Actually that's not a bi-color angel, have a look at the eye.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6578177#post6578177 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Razzagas
Would having a 20g sump/fuge' help me keep the watanabei angel better/ let me be able to comfortably house one?
What about keeping the bioload lower?
thanks
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Assuming good husbandry the issue is swimspace, these angels occupy a different niche than the Centopyge genus & hang out away from the rocks in the water column & are planktivores (thus reef-safe) You would want a long tank & low rockwork

I know you asked about Potter's angels... I don't yet have personal experience - but since no one else has commented --- What I have read about them makes them sound like they would be more reef safe than some of the others. Michael says they feed on filamentous algae & detritus & to a lesser degree diatoms & sponge.
Here's a thread
They like to hang out in Porites & I thought it was interesting that one of the posters in this thread mentioned his Potter's was fairly reefsafe except it had nipped his Poriites :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6582574#post6582574 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dirtyreefer
Actually that's not a bi-color angel, have a look at the eye.
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Oh my gosh! Is that your fish? C.joculator, right? But they are coral/clam nippers, too, right?
 
all centrogype are nippers, regardless. Just depends on how many corals you have, how big of a tank, and how much you feed.

Hungrier centrogype will nip corals more often... sometimes their nipping is less, and it doesn't do much damange unless they're insane (like my flame). If you have a lot of SPS etc., they will less likely concentrate on one coral and kill it, instead it will be sustained without causing any damage.

do what you want, but when I put down $120 on a rare coral, I definately don't want the risk of it being eaten.
 
Haha I wish! :D

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6582699#post6582699 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Angel*Fish
Oh my gosh! Is that your fish? C.joculator, right? But they are coral/clam nippers, too, right?
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6583439#post6583439 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by koden
all centrogype are nippers, regardless. Just depends on how many corals you have, how big of a tank, and how much you feed.

Hungrier centrogype will nip corals more often... sometimes their nipping is less, and it doesn't do much damange unless they're insane (like my flame). If you have a lot of SPS etc., they will less likely concentrate on one coral and kill it, instead it will be sustained without causing any damage.
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What you say is true, but.... I think, & this is just one person's opinion, with more study & discussion we're gonna find that certain angels have clear preferences for certain corals As it is already known that many will go nuts for open brain & similar corals. And others like Potter's often have a powerful taste for Porites.

As the info on what these fishes like to nip gets sorted we should have increased success in choosing which angels to keep with which corals, at least that is my hope.

Of course there will always be insane specimens like your flame. :D BTW, I have heard that some have distracted their flames from the corals by providing feather caulerpa - worth a try if you haven't already
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6580578#post6580578 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dirtyreefer
How about one of these :D


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Among the rather expensive group you listed :D , what genia. species is this?
 
Hey reefer: which one of those 2 angels are you considering to be the bi color angel and the other high dollar angel. Your first pic is the bi color angel, that is the one I had in my tank. That is also the one that was the first pic out of those 5-6 pics on the 2nd page. I wouldn't put any fish in my tank that I was not 100% certain that it wouldn't eat anything but what was intended.
 
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