Chaetadontoplus Juvi Colors?????

HOBrien

HOBrien

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I purchased this Juvi fish from BZ and they have it stated as a Gray Poma juvi. The question is does it come in a varient of just black and white as a juvi as I have only seen them as yellow and black as a juvi.

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Let me know what yall think?
 
That appears to be a normal juvenile Chaetodontoplus melanosoma... a very beautiful little specimen at that... there are a number of very closely related Chaetodontoplus species that share similar juvenile colorations (known as the melanosoma complex), of which C. melanosoma is the most white, although if you put your fish next to a black sheet of paper when you get it you'll probably see it as a whitish yellow... or a yellowish white... it will not be a clownfish white if you know what I mean...

Copps
 
copps said:
That appears to be a normal juvenile Chaetodontoplus melanosoma... a very beautiful little specimen at that... there are a number of very closely related Chaetodontoplus species that share similar juvenile colorations (known as the melanosoma complex), of which C. melanosoma is the most white, although if you put your fish next to a black sheet of paper when you get it you'll probably see it as a whitish yellow... or a yellowish white... it will not be a clownfish white if you know what I mean...

Copps
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Thank you for the prompt reply Copps. I put the question there hoping for either of 3 people to responde to the quesiton and you are one of them. They have it listed as only 1" so I am pretty excited to say the least about aquiring it and getting to watch it fully transform to its adult which I still think is a show stopper. I was actually in contact with them before they listed this fish on their top 50 list yesterday and had them add it to my cart once it was available so no one else could snag it.

Also this will be going into a reef so fingers crossed on that. So what is your experience as to the adult size they will reach in a home aquarium since all books and sights state 8" which is for wild specimens.
 
First priority is getting that fish feeding fast and often. The amount of time these tiny angels could go without eating is much less than larger specimens... The advantage is that with small specimens like this if you acquire them in good shape they adapt to a captive diet much easier than larger individuals... large Chaetodontoplus are perhaps the biggest headache of all angels in getting them feeding... full size in the aquarium depends on many factors I've found... but probably in the 5-6" range...
 
copps said:
First priority is getting that fish feeding fast and often. The amount of time these tiny angels could go without eating is much less than larger specimens... The advantage is that with small specimens like this if you acquire them in good shape they adapt to a captive diet much easier than larger individuals... large Chaetodontoplus are perhaps the biggest headache of all angels in getting them feeding... full size in the aquarium depends on many factors I've found... but probably in the 5-6" range...
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I have thought about blocking off a portion of my sump to place it in till it is feeding aggressively or some how create a specimen hold that will allow flow and such that I can place it inside the tank that way all fish will also get aquanted to each other.

That adult size you mentioned would be perfect for the 120.
 
Well the fish arrived this morning and just like Copps had said there was a very slight tent of yellow to the white. The only thing that is worrying me is that it had alitttle of a sucken stomach. Also the Pacific Pygmy Angel and the 1 damsel in the tank are not being very nice to the new inhabitant. They only bother him and not the other fish that were introduced at the same time.

I will be keeping my fingers crossed for as the MAcs angel is standing up for it.
 
Heath - you need to separate the fish using egg crate or something else. Fish that small need to be left alone to feed and recoup.

If it is continued to be pestered it will lead to its demise.

As for the stomach, watch it...most fish come in not having eaten for a bit and as John said, they need to feed often (6-7 times a day).
 
Small angelfish are fish that require a QT session. Not for disease control, but for adapting to captivity. It's a place where they can be comfortable enough to start eating and build fat reserves. As small as that C. melanosoma juvi is, directly into a DT or into a QT with other fish, let alone another angel, is almost a death sentence.

I have a pair of small C. caeruleopunctatus that I picked up from the same place a week ago. Right now the only foods they are accepting are fresh cracked live clams. I would give that a try if you have troubles with getting the fish to eat. I would also considering removing one of the angels to the sump.
 
That is too bad you did not QT such a beautiful specimen. Tagging along in hopes that it makes it, but straight in the DT the odds can't be good.
 
Also the stomch does not look sunkin in any longer due to his grazing and eating fo the food offered.
 
AuroraDrvr said:
Small angelfish are fish that require a QT session. Not for disease control, but for adapting to captivity. It's a place where they can be comfortable enough to start eating and build fat reserves. As small as that C. melanosoma juvi is, directly into a DT or into a QT with other fish, let alone another angel, is almost a death sentence.

I have a pair of small C. caeruleopunctatus that I picked up from the same place a week ago. Right now the only foods they are accepting are fresh cracked live clams. I would give that a try if you have troubles with getting the fish to eat. I would also considering removing one of the angels to the sump.
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most angels come in fluke-ridden.

now that i think about, theres no excuse not to QT.
 
Much to my surprise I found it dead late last night beside a rock. It had eaten both meals I fed through out the day..........

I have learned a more valuable lesson through out this ordeal with this fish.
 
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