"challice" pics...lets see em!
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neyugn0w01
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I got a frag from Hugo, but it is not as large as aquaconnect. Anyone that is in the bay area is free to come by and check it out.
Sang...Thankfully so or the country would just fall apart 
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neyugn0w01, teasing us bay area reefers with just a look huh??
. Sweet pick up.
The Tyree LE list for the Red Watermelon is a bimonthly so this must be a slow grower, although I think the watermelon is kind of slow as well, how do they get a frag a month??? My Aquascene Golden Eye seems to grow quite a bit faster than the watermelon, although it is 8-10x's bigger so the growth is exponential compared to the watermelon. This could be a contributing factor. Ah well, either way, slow or fast, I just love the chalices. The colro morphs just keep getting sweeter.
.neyugn0w01, teasing us bay area reefers with just a look huh??
. Sweet pick up. The Tyree LE list for the Red Watermelon is a bimonthly so this must be a slow grower, although I think the watermelon is kind of slow as well, how do they get a frag a month??? My Aquascene Golden Eye seems to grow quite a bit faster than the watermelon, although it is 8-10x's bigger so the growth is exponential compared to the watermelon. This could be a contributing factor. Ah well, either way, slow or fast, I just love the chalices. The colro morphs just keep getting sweeter
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aquaconnect
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My red watermelon has grown pretty good actually. Not like wild fire or anything, but nice and faster than the orginal. I hope it grows crazy, so many people are wanting it!
Aquabucket
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Feeding them nightly will help them grow faster. In my case its the knobs or heads that like to grow upward and the shape of coral is begining to look less and less like a disc.
snipersps
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8273771#post8273771 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by slojmn
Sang...Thankfully so or the country would just fall apart
neyugn0w01, teasing us bay area reefers with just a look huh??
The Tyree LE list for the Red Watermelon is a bimonthly so this must be a slow grower, although I think the watermelon is kind of slow as well, how do they get a frag a month???
Tyree list the red watermelon cause his piece is really big. but it his pice grow more faster he will to change a monthly.
my piece is grow like regular
neyugn0w01
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Hugo,
I remember that piece being bigger a few weeks ago.
I remember that piece being bigger a few weeks ago.
neyugn0w01
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Aquaconnets price of $550 might look like a steal after all, compare to what it could go for on Tyree's site.
purplereef
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All you guys with the Watermelons, is there any advantage to glueing them to a rock to encrust onto or just lay them on the sand bed? Just wondering if putting them on a rock will make them grow faster or not?
aquaconnect
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I've tried both. I like having them on the rock. So seem to actually do better in the rock work, verses having them on the bottom. It just depends on the coral. I do have some on the bottom, but most are in the rocks. With little frags it's almost a must to have them glued to something or they will get knocked over/plowed over on the sand if you have any kind of inverts hanging around in the tank.
I think I have read in the past that mounting them encourages better growth, maybe jendub or someone else wrote this in another thread. I mount most of my chalices but when it is time to frag I pop them off the mount and frag. Once the mother colony is healed up a bit I will then re-mount if they are smaller colonies. I have one chalice that is 4"x4" and it is loose on a large rock and it grows just fine. I mount frags right away so I don't lose them in the flow. One of my other larger Acanthastrea echinata chalices is loose and it is growing up underneath itself instead of spreading out. If it had been mounted it would have spread out onto the rock it was on. I am curious if it will continue to grow all the way under itself. So far it is underneath itself about 1 1/2" all the way around, trippy. I don't know how the flesh underneath survives but now I have turned it into an experiment
purplereef
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Thanks guys, I will have to mount it on some rock work. Dan.
RandyO
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If the Echinophyllia is big enough, I don't mount them. If you are growing them out just to make frags, it's easier to cut a piece that's unmounted. If they are kept on the bottom of a bare bottom tank, they grow out nice and flat. I've cut some of my Echinophyllia with just a razor blade because they were nice and thin, and flat.
But I do agree, if it's a small frag, you should mount if. If it gets blown around, it could get damaged. The Watermelon Echino has a very thin skeleton, making it very lightweight. I haven't had the guts to let a small piece lay in my frag tank to grow out flat.
Here's a few old pic's that are probably somewhere in this thread already.
The large pink colonies were kept on the bottom, so they grew flat. But room was in short supply, so the green colony was angled against the rocks. You can see how the bottom conformed flat to the glass. When you put these guys on the rocks, they usually take the form of the rock, conforming over it, or even attaching themselves to the rock. That makes fragging them a little harder.
Thin colonies are pretty easy to cut.
Here is that green colony in 2003, being cut with a razor blade.
A picture from December 2005 of flat colonies, and frags.
The frags will grow out flat and round, if left on the bottom.
This method has worked well for me, but when it came to the watermelon, I left it on the rock.
And it grew over the whole rock, and then wanted to go under it.
So I had to frag it with the tile saw. That was not very fun to hold a piece the size of a golf ball with no rock to grab onto. I had to press on the flesh, which is not very good for the coral.
Though the last time I fragged this guy, I did what Slojmn said, and started popping it off the mount. That worked pretty good too.
Slojmn,
Acanthastrea are not chalice corals.
But I do agree, if it's a small frag, you should mount if. If it gets blown around, it could get damaged. The Watermelon Echino has a very thin skeleton, making it very lightweight. I haven't had the guts to let a small piece lay in my frag tank to grow out flat.
Here's a few old pic's that are probably somewhere in this thread already.
The large pink colonies were kept on the bottom, so they grew flat. But room was in short supply, so the green colony was angled against the rocks. You can see how the bottom conformed flat to the glass. When you put these guys on the rocks, they usually take the form of the rock, conforming over it, or even attaching themselves to the rock. That makes fragging them a little harder.
Thin colonies are pretty easy to cut.
Here is that green colony in 2003, being cut with a razor blade.
A picture from December 2005 of flat colonies, and frags.
The frags will grow out flat and round, if left on the bottom.
This method has worked well for me, but when it came to the watermelon, I left it on the rock.
And it grew over the whole rock, and then wanted to go under it.
So I had to frag it with the tile saw. That was not very fun to hold a piece the size of a golf ball with no rock to grab onto. I had to press on the flesh, which is not very good for the coral.
Though the last time I fragged this guy, I did what Slojmn said, and started popping it off the mount. That worked pretty good too.
Slojmn,
Acanthastrea are not chalice corals.
Oooooops, duh-Acans not chalices...Thanks Randy, I'm always learning and appreciate the corrections .
Beautiful corals in those pics. I use your method for cutting my thinner chalices with a razor blade, works great with low stress. When they are mounted on the rocks things get more dicey.
. Beautiful corals in those pics. I use your method for cutting my thinner chalices with a razor blade, works great with low stress. When they are mounted on the rocks things get more dicey.
RandyO
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I've found that all my Echinophyllia can touch each other. I've had a few of them grow together when touching. Some of them had to be pulled apart, while others I let fuse together.
If you try to put an Echinophyllia next to an Oxypora or Mycedium, they will fight. It's unfortunate that the reefing community has grouped all these corals in the "Chalice" category. If more corals were called by their proper names, it would make it easier for people to group like corals together.
RandyO
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Close up of the first pic, showing the flesh laying on top of each other.
Another pic that's in this thread a few times.
Two color morphs of Echinophyllia, fused together.
July 05
May 06
I also have a pale blue Echinophyllia that must have picked up a tiny chunk of that pink echino as it was growing. No pics of that one already on the web server.
Another pic that's in this thread a few times.
Two color morphs of Echinophyllia, fused together.
July 05
May 06
I also have a pale blue Echinophyllia that must have picked up a tiny chunk of that pink echino as it was growing. No pics of that one already on the web server.
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