Cheap Sand from Homedepot?

Charley Diesing

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Hey guys I need to buy some sand for my 40 gallon breeder, and I've heard of people buying it from home-depot. What are your thoughts? How should I clean it? Its just for looks not going with a DSB, was just thinking 2-4 inches? Give me your thoughts.

Thanks,

Charley
 
Some home depots in certain parts of the country used to carry aragonite play sand but not sure if they still do. Best best is to call around. Maybe someone here will have a lead...
 
Just remember that the big chain stores have a tendency to store sand, rocks and stuff outside and sometimes close to fertilizers and weed control products/poisons. Saw this on a TV show once.

While you might not get "that much" via vicinity, I'd hate to find out the hard way myself.
 
Carbonate substrate is one of the least expensive components in our hobby. Why cut corners by putting something in a potentially expensive reef tank that was not intended for that use?
 
What you are thinking of is usually called "pool filter sand" or "play ground sand" (or just "play sand"). Play sand tends to be a little less clean and smaller grain. Make sure you rinse it as much as possible.

It won't cause algae problems. It may fuel a little more diatoms then usually but it isn't quite the apocalypse like many people make it out to be.

There are some arguments over it being bad for sand-sifting livestock, but this seems to be one of those opinion-based arguments. The simple fact is that silica sand exists within the oceans and sand-sifters do deal with it in the wild. Whether it hurts them more then aragonite is arguable but it won't kill them.

The key issues with silica sand are that it doesn't offer the buffering or nutrient advantages of aragonite.
It may also have a higher chance of causing scratches to the glass, if you allow it to get into a situation where it can scratch the glass.



This is one of those subjects that dies quickly under a barrage of "stop being cheap and spend more money" type responses. There are two schools of thought in this hobby. One believes in always spending extra for quality and correct usage. The other makes use of cheaper alternatives as long as they can minimize risk. The first group will always answer these types of questions with "why take the risk?".
 
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carribea aragonite sand from petsmart is what I bought. Should I rinse it before I use? Should I put it in my tank(40 gallon Breeder) before or after I feel it up with Saltwater?
 
carribea aragonite sand from petsmart is what I bought. Should I rinse it before I use? Should I put it in my tank(40 gallon Breeder) before or after I feel it up with Saltwater?

As with all sand rinse the hell out of it before putting in the tank.

I put mine in a pillow case to rinse while running water through it. I suggest putting it into the tank using a PVC pipe as a slide so to minimize the sand storm (because it will happen). if water is second going in I suggest filling the tank slow to minimize the storm....
 
The only time i would consider using fine grain sand is in a deep bed situation. The finer sand will blow around your tank and look really poor, at least it did when i did it 7 yrs ago. I think the best way to add substrate to a reef tank is to place all the rocks first, then just add where needed a light dusting of crushed coral, quater or half inch. gravel and sand will just add places for detritus and uneaten food to lay, making more work for you and frustration in nutrient levels.
 
Below is the famous HD sand that no one can ever seem to find. I did years back but just stopped by a week ago and no luck... only Quikrete which is no good.

"Southdown Tropical Play Sand"
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That said, the 40# for $15 shipped is amazing(thanks!), the Petsmart deal is quite good as well. :thumbsup:
 
I used Pavestone High desert play sand from H.D.
I just had to rinse the heck out of it first.
It's been in my system now for over 4 years and never had any issues.
Very white and even foams under vinegar.But it might only be available in the N.E.
 
Whatever sand you buy, but especially ordinary play sand, in addition to rinsing it you might want to run a magnet through it to remove some of the metallic bits that may be present. :)
 
What you are thinking of is usually called "pool filter sand" or "play ground sand" (or just "play sand"). Play sand tends to be a little less clean and smaller grain. Make sure you rinse it as much as possible.

It won't cause algae problems. It may fuel a little more diatoms then usually but it isn't quite the apocalypse like many people make it out to be.

There are some arguments over it being bad for sand-sifting livestock, but this seems to be one of those opinion-based arguments. The simple fact is that silica sand exists within the oceans and sand-sifters do deal with it in the wild. Whether it hurts them more then aragonite is arguable but it won't kill them.

The key issues with silica sand are that it doesn't offer the buffering or nutrient advantages of aragonite.
It may also have a higher chance of causing scratches to the glass, if you allow it to get into a situation where it can scratch the glass.



This is one of those subjects that dies quickly under a barrage of "stop being cheap and spend more money" type responses. There are two schools of thought in this hobby. One believes in always spending extra for quality and correct usage. The other makes use of cheaper alternatives as long as they can minimize risk. The first group will always answer these types of questions with "why take the risk?".

The sand people are talking about here is not regular silica "sandbox sand," it's an ocean harvested aragonite sand (just like Caribsea), but instead of paying $15 for a 30 lbs. bag like we do at the LFS, it was being sold at home improvement stores for a fraction of the price. (See the photo above of Southdown sand). Hobbyists went and snatched it up by the truckload. This was big deal couple years back.

I personally would have been hesistant to use it for all the reasons stated (contamination, metals, etc.), but apparently many people took it home, rinsed it and used it in their tanks without issue. There was quite a few threads here on RC about it.
 
I'll go against the grain and say don't bother rinsing it. The so called "live sand" is mostly dead. This will however help to kick start your cycle. Run a HOB or canister filter with carbon to rid the tank of fines for a few days and while you aquascape and get the rest of your equipment going.

The problem I see with rinsing is actually 2 problems. Copper based pipes and hose ends that your using to rinse may be adding copper to the substrate. 2 your adding other non desirables from your water source and let's face it, nobody is using RO or even RO/DI to rinse their sand.

The silica based play sand might work but it's still brown even under our lighting. The specialized sand we use in our hobby even though it looks brown is white under our lighting. HTH
 
Play sand will have debris (sticks, black stuff). I have used it for freshwater tanks. It requires a lot of pre-washing before being placed into the tank. It is silica based, so unelss you want a terrible diatom outbreak that lasts forever, I would recommend NOT USING IT.

Dry sand is relatively cheap. You can get it shipped from websites like BRS or MarcoRocks if you can't get it in a LFS.

Best of luck!
 
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